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Re: 40 Armageddon
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:53 pm
by cdnchris
I'm sure a lot of people skipped the DVD because, you know, it's Armageddon, but it's actually a good edition. The commentaries are funny (you're right in that the scientists, who I believe were advisors on the film, do spend a lot of time explaining how they were ignored), the behind-the-scenes stuff was actually very well done and interesting, and the outtakes were pretty good (Fichtner complaining about how he was told this movie would be fun to make but it's not, Michael Clarke Duncan saying something along the lines of "I'm going to come out there and beat the fuck out of you," etc). It's one of those titles where I like the features a lot more than the movie.
Re: 40 Armageddon
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:56 pm
by colinr0380
And of course Steve Buscemi riffing in character on his love of Jacqueline Bisset in The Deep!
Re: 40 Armageddon
Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:53 pm
by Werewolf by Night
It's one of those cast commentaries on a contemporary film that Criterion used to do so well in that era. The cast commentary on Boogie Nights was another.
Re: 40 Armageddon
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:10 am
by flyonthewall2983
You don't get much of those anymore Criterion or elsewhere it seems. There was one for Ocean's Eleven that was pretty good, too.
Re: 40 Armageddon
Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:38 pm
by flyonthewall2983
Is "I Don't Wanna Miss A Thing" objectively the worst original song on a film in the Criterion Collection?
Re: 40 Armageddon
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:06 am
by Matt
No. It’s not even the worst original Aerosmith song from that movie.
Re: 40 Armageddon
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:10 am
by domino harvey
Matt wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:06 am
No. It’s not even the worst original song from that movie.
How can that be, is there a longer version in it?
Re: 40 Armageddon
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:17 am
by Matt
It’s corny as hell and engineered for the pop charts, but it’s not “bad.” Try humming a few bars of “What Kind of Love Are You On” from memory.
Re: 40 Armageddon
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:40 am
by domino harvey
I had to look it up and for like thirty seconds I thought you were crazy, because the riff is good. Then the singing started and, well, one more data point for "Aerosmith suck"
Re: 40 Armageddon
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:10 am
by The Elegant Dandy Fop
I'd argue that the "Come Together" cover by Aerosmith in this film sucks more.
Re: 40 Armageddon
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:53 am
by Big Ben
Somehow, with each of your posts today you've reminded me just how much I dislike this film. I had blotted out out the music much like several other nineties atrocities.
Re: 40 Armageddon
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:12 am
by colinr0380
SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? I CANNOT HEAR THE SONG OVER ALL OF THE EXPLOSIONS AND SCREAMING!I
I don't mind the Aerosmith song, and remember that at the time it was actually a blessed relief from Celine Dion. That reminded me that I love the Adam & Joe stuffed toy recreation:
Toytanic!
Re: 40 Armageddon
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:40 am
by Big Ben
I had a much bigger problem with the fact that the camera never stopped moving and that the average shot was about two seconds in length. It is an unbelievably awful film and the fact that it is two and half hours pushes it into the realm of a cinematic atrocity that achieves some sort of grandeur. It went on and on and on and on and by the time it was over I experienced a migraine pain so severe my consciousness was raised and I achieved some sort of Pyrrhic enlightenment into the suffering of all living things.
Re: 40 Armageddon
Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:30 pm
by flyonthewall2983
domino harvey wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:40 am
I had to look it up and for like thirty seconds I thought you were crazy, because the riff is good. Then the singing started and, well, one more data point for "Aerosmith suck"
I barely remembered it from being played a little bit on rock radio around the same time the other song was on the pop charts.
I actually quite like Aerosmith, even for the music from the post-rehab period. The album they released a year before,
Nine Lives, is actually really good. But this was the end of the line as far as any credibility for me.
Steven Hyden wrote this incredibly sharp take on it all, that could put anything I could say on the subject to shame.
Re: 40 Armageddon
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:48 am
by McCrutchy
cdnchris wrote: Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:53 pm
I'm sure a lot of people skipped the DVD because, you know, it's
Armageddon, but it's actually a good edition. The commentaries are funny (you're right in that the scientists, who I believe were advisors on the film, do spend a lot of time explaining how they were ignored), the behind-the-scenes stuff was actually very well done and interesting, and the outtakes were pretty good (Fichtner complaining about how he was told this movie would be fun to make but it's not, Michael Clarke Duncan saying something along the lines of "I'm going to come out there and beat the fuck out of you," etc). It's one of those titles where I like the features a lot more than the movie.
I'm going to have to dig out my copy, but I vividly remember falling asleep during this movie, and the disc going back to the menu, which was one of the "animated" variety that repeated ad infinitum, and featured, I want to say, Bruce Willis, humming "YMCA" as something like "WHYYYYY-M-C-EHHHHH, AH DIDGI, DIDGI, DA, DA, DA!" while in a spacesuit and doing some kind of jig.
EDIT: Actually, it might have been the extras disc? And I might be struggling to remember the exact phrasing of the last bit, but either way, that voice is seared into my memory.
Re: 40 Armageddon
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:47 pm
by Andre Jurieu
McCrutchy wrote: Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:48 am ...the disc going back to the menu, which was one of the "animated" variety that repeated ad infinitum, and featured, I want to say, Bruce Willis, humming "YMCA" as something like "WHYYYYY-M-C-EHHHHH, AH DIDGI, DIDGI, DA, DA, DA!" while in a spacesuit and doing some kind of jig.
I think you just described what my own personal hell would be. Man, I hope Satan doesn't read this forum. Of course, if he did, he would probably get notifications for this thread and take notes.
Re: 40 Armageddon
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:14 am
by Feego
This title is listed as "Currently Unavailable" rather than Out of Print on Criterion's website, but it seems unavailable at pretty much every major retailer. Does anyone know what the actual status is?
Re: 40 Armageddon
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:39 am
by dwk
Ask Disney, as they are/were the ones that manufactured and distributed this (and the DVDs for the other Buena Vista/Touchstone/Miramax titles that Criterion "released" in the early 2000s.)
Re: 40 Armageddon
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 3:01 am
by cdnchris
Appears to still be available on Disney Movie Club... for $6.78!
Re: 40 Armageddon
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:10 pm
by omegadirective
I thought this title went out of print years ago.
Re: 40 Armageddon
Posted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 1:33 pm
by Feego
Thanks everyone.
Re: 40 Armageddon
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:55 am
by flyonthewall2983
The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:10 am
I'd argue that the "Come Together" cover by Aerosmith in this film sucks more.
From a worse movie, even
Re: 40 Armageddon
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:17 am
by hearthesilence
I'm not really a big Aerosmith fan, but unless it was recorded again for the movie, that's actually one of the better covers of that song IMHO and one of their best tracks outside of anything from
Rocks and
Toys in the Attic. Two very good albums and a handful of good singles are nothing to sneeze at, but they also released a lot of mediocrities back in their heyday and they put out so much horrendous schlock during the '80s and beyond, I kind of pretend they never got back together.
Also, I just saw Chris's post on the extras from years ago -
I imagine these are the outtakes?
Re: 40 Armageddon
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 3:27 am
by therewillbeblus
My core memories of this movie:
That terrible Aerosmith song and music video, which I didn't get when I was nine and haven't budged since
Consequently, I feel like I spent a fair amount of time trying to understand why people thought either Steven or Liv Tyler were exceptionally attractive. I get it more now, because I'm not nine
I won two free movie tickets to this on the promotional scratch-offs on a McDonald's super size fries, back when those were a thing, and it felt like I had won the kid lottery
The movie itself was lame