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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:24 am
by justeleblanc
bunuelian wrote:Is your point that we shouldn't consider the political values of Viridiana when evaluating it? Because that's a piss poor point, frankly.
I'll admit that I didn't get the politics of the film -- at least I don't think I did. But I love the film and consider it one of my all time favorites simply by how Bunuel attacks the blind teachings of the church. The good-hearted, naive nun doesn't understand the world she tries to save, and to me this is aggressive, funny, and tragic at the same time.

I guess I can understand why some people don't like it. But then I think we would disagree as to what makes Bunuel the great filmmaker that he is.

Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:03 pm
by tavernier
According to a Criterion press release, this has been postponed indefinitely: The Children Are Watching Us moves from January to March, and Viridiana moves from February to a date to be decided.

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:15 am
by godardslave
its still listed as february on the website though?

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:16 am
by bunuelian
No. The Church found out that it was going to be released and threatened to send a range of plagues and pestilences against Criterion. A cock crowed.

Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:30 am
by tavernier
godardslave wrote:its still listed as february on the website though?
i guess their update mode is slow on weekends

Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:17 am
by What A Disgrace
CriterionDVD.com claims that the new date is May, 23.

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:23 pm
by kekid
Viridiana is entirely missing on the Criterion website. No new date, and no further news. I had a premonition that the most desirable announcement of 2006 would somehow not happen as originally promised.

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:31 pm
by justeleblanc
Damn you all and your cover complaints!!! #-o

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:33 pm
by tryavna
JusteLeblanc wrote:Damn you all and your cover complaints!!! #-o
I think this calls for Charlton Heston-like dramatics: "You maniacs, you blew it up! Damn you! Damn you all to hell!"

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:56 pm
by Napier
Maybe it's because of all the bitching done about the cover.And Criterion just couldn't live with upsetting everyone on the forum.

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:20 pm
by arsonfilms
I'm noticing that Viridiana is no longer listed on the "coming soon" page on criterion.com

Thanks a lot guys, you killed it. I'll bet it was pushed back to May so they could start their entire marketing process over again. I hope you're happy.

I jest.

maybe if everyone would clamor just as hard for a box set...

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:03 pm
by justeleblanc
I don't think a Pinal/Bunuel box of Viridiana, Exterminating Angel, and Simon of the Desert is out of the question.

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:18 am
by kekid
I only looked in the "coming soon" section, which lists future releases. "Viridiana" has been taken out of that section. They obviously have not removed all links related to the item. If "Viridiana" is to be combined with one or more additional Bunuels (an optimistic assumption), the linked information will eventually change. If only the cover art changes, the linked information will eventually change to show the new cover. If nothing changes except the date, that would explain why all the links have been kept intact. A two month delay with no compensation..... that would be disappointing.

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:40 am
by Derek Estes
The Lower Depths was delayed almost a year after it's announcment, and was later released with The Renoir film. Yet, Criterion used to delay titles a month or two all the time when they were making announcments only three months in advance. Now with the additional month, I think we will be seeing this more often. For example two of the four January titles have been delayed by a month or two already!

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:18 pm
by Gordon
Hopefully, it isn't just a cover redesign and we get more extras for this landmark masterpiece.

Something else to consider: If Criterion bows to perennial grumblers such as I, then it puts them
in a fragile position for future grumblings, of which - I predict - there will be many. 8-[

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:13 pm
by mteller
If this is being delayed because you jackasses whined about the cover, I'll be pissed. It was an excellent cover, and fits the film perfectly.

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:18 pm
by skuhn8
mteller wrote:If this is being delayed because you jackasses whined about the cover, I'll be pissed. It was an excellent cover, and fits the film perfectly.
Somehow I don't think the good people at CC lose to much sleep over what they read on this forum. They probably flipped some scenes ala Jules and Jim or something and are fixing it.

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:24 pm
by Napoleon
mteller wrote:If this is being delayed because you jackasses whined about the cover, I'll be pissed. It was an excellent cover, and fits the film perfectly.
Nice one Krakpot.

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:31 pm
by Cinephrenic
They probably flipped some scenes ala Jules and Jim or something and are fixing it.
Has anyone actually got a response from Criterion on this issue?

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 5:32 pm
by mteller
N. W. wrote:
mteller wrote:If this is being delayed because you jackasses whined about the cover, I'll be pissed. It was an excellent cover, and fits the film perfectly.
Nice one Krakpot.
Who the hell is Krakpot? Or is that some kind of forum in-joke?

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:11 pm
by kappoka
I received an email from someone yesterday and it did not reveal much:

" It's just not completed yet. "

Not much info but perhaps it's a good thing and they will add more material to the supplements.

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:37 pm
by pauling
There it is: Silvia Pinal to Appear on Upcoming Viridiana Release
We are pleased to announce that we have secured a video interview with Silvia Pinal, the luminous star of Luis Buñuel's Viridiana, for inclusion on our upcoming release of the film. This eleventh-hour addition will require us to postpone the street date, but given Pinal's contributions to this and other of Bunuel's Mexican/Spanish films, we feel it's well worth the wait. Look for Viridiana in May of 2006!

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:49 pm
by Michael Kerpan
...while you're working on adding the Pinal interview, fix the d**n cover too. ;~}

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 6:23 pm
by Anonymous
mteller wrote:If this is being delayed because you jackasses whined about the cover, I'll be pissed. It was an excellent cover, and fits the film perfectly.
Krakpot, in light of the news posted by pauling, I hope you're no longer pissed off at us. [-o<

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2005 7:21 pm
by Cinephrenic
but given Pinal's contributions to this and other of Bunuel's Mexican/Spanish films
Another confirmation of Exterminating Angel and Simon of the Desert.