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Re: The Armond White Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:05 pm
by Forrest Taft
bamwc2 wrote:The Sandler Memo. As the ghost of Andrew Breitbart says, You'll want to read it all.
Who celebrates Todd Phillips as a cultural hero?

Re: The Armond White Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:36 pm
by Jeff
tajmahal wrote:How is this man regarded within the industry? Is he just a pet project for this forum, or is he widely syndicated and 'respected' by his peers?...Did his writing and persona change with the growth of the internet?...Is he taking the piss?
I think he's regarded as a pathetic joke amongst most professional critics now, but he used to be a moderately respected guy who wrote regularly for Film Comment and penned several Criterion essays. This contrarian "man of the people" persona seems to have been developed more or less over the past decade. There seems to be some evidence to suggest that it's all a put-on designed to draw attention to an increasingly marginalized figure in a dying profession, but it's possible that it's just your run of the mill descent into madness.

Re: The Armond White Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:49 pm
by Gregory
There may be differences in his career then vs. now, but I think a lot of his nonsense goes way back and many were just more hesitant to call him out for it when he was riding high. I haven't read as much of him as many on here, but from pieces I remember from 10 years ago or more, it seems he's long had a screw loose or has consciously built a career on making inflammatory statements and odd analogies to see if people would buy them (and they very often did). The "man of the people" persona may have been something he adopted as fewer and fewer were willing to listen to him apply a limited range of ideas from familiar discourse about racial politics to his subjects in ways that IMO often strained all credibility.

For example, his lengthy takedown of Eminem, which, among many other claims, stated that Eminem could never match Flavor Flav's ingenuity (I love PE as much as anyone, but lets be serious about Flav's limits here) and basically suggested that Eminem and even the Beastie Boys were like Pat Boone, doing nothing but appropriating and watering down black music for white audiences and the white media establishment.

I also remember his review of Bridges of Madison County, in which he took serious issue with Eastwood using black vocalists on the soundtrack to a movie about white characters (pointing out Hollywood's scant interest in exploring black emotional lives -- a sound observation in itself, but where White went with it was totally ridiculous: as if Johnny Hartman's crooning of songs by white songwriters, etc. belongs strictly within a black context).

There was also his rambling review of Jay-Z's The Blueprint after Sept. 11, which strained to make Jay-Z's persona and that album in particular extremely timely and relevant to the issues of patriotism and war that were on most people's minds, despite the album having been completed pre-9/11 and lacking much if any content to lend it that kind of relevance.
There was also the strange and seemingly personal vendetta against Spike Lee from way back then. I'm sure the list goes on and on.

Re: The Armond White Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:13 am
by cocaine socialist
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Re: The Armond White Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:22 am
by domino harvey
What's Rip Torn doing and can he bring a hammer?

Re: The Armond White Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:56 am
by wattsup32
In his Magic Mike review, our hero writes this:
While avoiding the overblown existentialism of P.T. Anderson’s Boogie Nights, Soderbergh’s still arty.
That's a criticism. It's "arty." If there's one thing I hate in a work of art, it's art.

Re: The Armond White Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:02 am
by The Narrator Returns
And here's another, distinctly Armond, gem from the review:
If anything can be said with certainty in this life it’s that people who want to make furniture don’t become sex-workers. That term fits Soderbergh’s low-level shots of dollar-bills-in-thongs–a laughable Bresson affectation. But Magic Mike isn’t an analysis of leisure-as-work like Godard cinched in his capitalism/prostitution allegories A Married Woman or 2 or 3 Things I Know About Her (which were also insightful essays on contemporary Paris).

Re: The Armond White Thread

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:38 pm
by HistoryProf
is it just me or does he seem to lose his grasp on basic grammar and punctuation rules a little more with ever review? Like the above post, there are run on sentences galore in his recent ramblings.
His spoofing of political correctness and middle-brow propriety is the real reason behind all the haterade which became ridiculous after last year‘s ingenious, heartfelt Jack and Jill provoked an endless backlash of unprecedented lunacy and vitriol.
Aside from the idiotic content, he's literally becoming unreadable.

Re: The Armond White Thread

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:20 pm
by matrixschmatrix
Ridiculous haterade comprising an endless backlash of unprecendented lunacy and vitriol. Good, clear writing there.

Re: The Armond White Thread

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:27 pm
by Murdoch
Haters gonna haterade.

Re: The Armond White Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:42 am
by wattsup32
When life gives you haters, make haterade.

Re: The Armond White Thread

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:11 am
by Grand Illusion
Why did CinemaScope steal Armond White's "This Is Better Than That" format for an article about Cannes?

Re: The Armond White Thread

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:25 am
by domino harvey
Who is this joke and why was he allowed to be published anywhere people could see? Did the world need bon mots like
A guaranteed bore, Walter Salles’ On the Road is a film I did not see, have no interest in seeing, and will never see.

Re: The Armond White Thread

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:33 am
by matrixschmatrix
What the hell kind of critic falls asleep at fully a third of the films he's reviewing and brags about it

Re: The Armond White Thread

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:36 am
by knives
Roger Ebert.

Re: The Armond White Thread

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:50 am
by Grand Illusion
matrixschmatrix wrote:What the hell kind of critic falls asleep at fully a third of the films he's reviewing and brags about it
At least he went into the theater unlike the Salles film.

Re: The Armond White Thread

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:08 am
by mfunk9786
The fact that someone bankrolled a trip to Cannes for him with a press pass and everything makes me want to throw up

Re: The Armond White Thread

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:53 am
by John Cope
Peranson has been a Cannes curmudgeon for years now. It's almost his schtick by this point. I've actually grown to find it kind of endearing, as with much Armond.

Re: The Armond White Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:37 am
by McCrutchy
You know, lately I've really been wondering (especially now that I see he has a Twitter account, which I had no idea about) as I often do, whether the man himself reads boards like this, and even participates via pseudo-identities...it would go a long way towards the idea that he is now being more of an evil, contrarian persona than a serious film critic.

Re: The Armond White Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:34 am
by zedz
John Cope wrote:Peranson has been a Cannes curmudgeon for years now. It's almost his schtick by this point. I've actually grown to find it kind of endearing, as with much Armond.
Mark Peranson is actually a nice guy, but that particular schtick is pretty unbearable, and I worry that he's painting himself into a corner with the persona (peransona?) he adopts when writing these things.

Re: The Armond White Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:08 am
by scoundrel
I heard an interview with Elvis Mitchell recently in which he reveals that he's friends with White and insists that White is absolutely not crazy or trolling.

Re: The Armond White Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:09 am
by tavernier

Re: The Armond White Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:29 am
by HistoryProf
that was as predictable than tomorrow's sunrise.

Re: The Armond White Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:44 am
by wattsup32
tavernier wrote:yawn
You'll have to take my word for this, but on the basis of seeing "yawn" linked and then the posting after this one calling it predictable, I'm guessing it is a pan of the TDKR in which the word "fanboys" is used.

Re: The Armond White Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:57 am
by starmanof51
wattsup32 wrote:
tavernier wrote:yawn
You'll have to take my word for this, but on the basis of seeing "yawn" linked and then the posting after this one calling it predictable, I'm guessing it is a pan of the TDKR in which the word "fanboys" is used.
I'm not taking the bait, but I'd also bet a sawbuck on "hipster" and "Spielberg".