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I'd get There's Always Tomorrow, Rocco and His Brothers, L'Enfance Nue and Der Letzte Mann.

But that's just me.

Since I was leaning towards those four anyway that's pushed me over the edge. Thanks for the advice everyone!

jamie_atp wrote:L'Enfrance Neu is the best of that lot.

It's a fantastic concert film of Neu! live in Paris in 1975.

Calvin wrote:Nick said earlier in this thread that "They did not sell anywhere near enough to warrant a Blu-ray release, I'm afraid.

I'd give L'Enfance Nue a go on blu ray, but I no longer blind buy films in SD so I ignored the DVD. I wonder if a lot (relatively) of other people do this sort of thing? If so, DVD sales may not be the best way to judge.

RossyG wrote:I'd give L'Enfance Nue a go on blu ray, but I no longer blind buy films in SD so I ignored the DVD. I wonder if a lot (relatively) of other people do this sort of thing? If so, DVD sales may not be the best way to judge.

I also don't buy SD (Still rent plenty of it), but I don't think that is too common. MOC had to back down from their hardline Blu only stance in fact.

I think I'm about 90/10 on bluray/dvd purchases these days. Eclipse box sets probably distort that figure somewhat as well. I think the ascendency of streaming movies online pretty much shows where the public is at as far as quality vs. convenience goes.

Everything is fragmenting into shards though. I would argue that the core MoC, Second Run, Criterion, BFI, Artificial Eye audience hardly stream anything at all. I don't, and I don't have any friends who do regularly.

The mainstream streams. I'm not interested in mainstream films or streaming as a medium.

I stream stuff once in a while, but far more often TV than movies- when I do stream a movie, and it's something I like, it bugs the hell out of me and I wind up buying the damn thing anyway. I'm not going to watch something where the visuals are important and have to pause it every five minutes while it buffers or suffer through horrible artifacting.

Besides, streaming doesn't include extras.

btw. I wasn't referring to, or including, the streaming of TV in what I said. Just films.

Here is my 21st Century reason for not streaming anymore: Life is too short, and for most things I watch (especially the newer stuff) it will be the last and only time I ever get a chance to see it. So I want to see it in as fine a presentation as is available. And that is almost never provided by streaming.

Couldn't agree more. Current streaming technology stinks for beautifully made films. Screw it.

I was watching The Secret of Kells, and didn't get more than ten minutes in- nothing destroys fluid animation more than choppiness and artifacting. It seemed like a mediocre movie on Netflix Instant, and one of my favorite movies in years on blu ray.

Screw Netflix and MUBI and all these places. They don't offer a worthwhile watch - cf. David Lynch on watching films on your phone. Plus, they screw the filmmaker and owner for higher royalties than a DVD/Blu-ray distributor.

However, unfortunately streaming is the only option for all those titles that Criterion has released onto hulu. I would rather have the option to stream than not have them available at all...

I don't stream either. I don't have time to watch all the DVDs I buy, let alone watch more stuff on the Internet. I pretty much buy everything that I'm interested in collecting and I download random other stuff that I'll just watch once with the girlfriend (and films I have on Blu but cannot watch when I'm at uni).

When streaming's the only option, you have to take the lame technology on the chin.

I'm of course in 100% agreement with everyone else as far as streaming goes - just wanted to clarify that. I only meant to say that unfortunately the economics of it are probably going to win out over physical media at some point, but maybe bluray can remain a viable niche (seeing as most of the labels we care about are quite niche themselves).

I've contended for a few years now that it will go the way of a beautifully designed book, with a Blu-ray or memory stick in the back (containing 1080p or uncompressed 4k) for the absolute top end of things. We might be looking at 1980s Laserdisc style prices though.

One of the reasons we're fighting the Phaidon rudeness so hard.

Silent Running is currently £3.99 on Amazon. Most likely it's a typo, but they might well honour it.

Standard edition of Silent Running blu currently £3.99 on amazon.co.uk
Will happily sacrifice the steelbook to get this for that price instead!

I wonder if they'll honor the price. It's obviously an error.

It's enough to make me want to cancel my HMV preorder for the Touch of Evil steelbook since I could theoretically get both of these releases for around the same price as the HMV steelbook when the combined shipping discount and VAT discount is taken into consideration. I keep trying to convince myself that I'm as obsessed with steelbooks as everyone else seems to be, but I really don't care either way.

i'd actually prefer my shelves to look more uniform - steelbooks do very little for me

jamie_atp wrote:i'd actually prefer my shelves to look more uniform - steelbooks do very little for me

Same. It's why I bought the Metropolis Blu-ray, and why I now can't win since they've switched to dual format, and Metropolis won't be conforming to the change (and the steelbook is out-of-stock everywhere also).

TMDaines wrote:

jamie_atp wrote:i'd actually prefer my shelves to look more uniform - steelbooks do very little for me

Same. It's why I bought the Metropolis Blu-ray, and why I now can't win since they've switched to dual format, and Metropolis won't be conforming to the change (and the steelbook is out-of-stock everywhere also).

Having recently purchased the Metropolis Blu (an excellent package, as always) and being a bit of an obsessive compulsive myself, I have to say that you cannot win regardless due to the incorrect orientation of the Eureka logo at the top of the spine. Tragic, really.