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Is that Règle du jeu on the top of the Mk2?

I think the 5th one on the MK2 deal list is Paris nous Appartient.

(I like the Rorschach derived hoax theory. I think we're at the point where we read what we want to read. I'd love to see Schtupp your Rabbi in the collection)

Saturnome wrote:I think the 5th one on the MK2 deal list is Paris nous Appartient.

(I like the Rorschach derived hoax theory. I think we're at the point where we read what we want to read. I'd love to see Schtupp your Rabbi in the collection)

If that were true, I think that more people would be shouting out Jacques Rivette titles at random. We all want those. I hate the stereotype, but it's true... Wait... Celine and Jul-

Gary Gnu wrote:Why is "Dr. Seuss" written on the page if he's the screenwriter? Aren't all the other names directors? Is it because he's a big name?

It could be a Seuss organized boxset- there's other relevant work he's been involved with, like some WW2 era documentaries

matrixschmatrix wrote:It could be a Seuss organized boxset- there's other relevant work he's been involved with, like some WW2 era documentaries.

That sounds neat! I didn't know he was involved in documentaries. If this is true, then next year will be a great year for documentaries. Anyone see Errol Morris on these lists?

No, but I think IFC has the rights to most of the rumored ones, and we can't read the IFC page. It's also possible they're not in the 2012 releases because they're going to be announced for this year.

I realized in looking back that I'd been confusing The War Room and The Fog of War until just now, The War Room sounds really interesting (if very unlike the Pennebaker/Hegedus stuff they've released thus far.)

The War Room is good stuff. From an auteurist perspective, I'm not sure it says anything more about Pennebaker than say, the Depeche Mode concert film he did a few years before it. But it's pretty cool political history. What Carville and Stephanopoulos came up with -- rapid response, the 24 hour campaign, winning small news cycles -- completely revolutionized the way American political campaigns operate. Now of course it seems so very quaint in retrospect, but at the time it was cutting edge. Carville is such a great character. After all those years on TV, people forget how unique the dude really was.

I hope Criterion excerpts the Carville/Matalin All's Fair 1992 memoir for the booklet. Still the single best inside baseball book I've ever read about campaigns and elections.

matrixschmatrix wrote:I realized in looking back that I'd been confusing The War Room and The Fog of War until just now, The War Room sounds really interesting (if very unlike the Pennebaker/Hegedus stuff they've released thus far.)

Yeah, even as someone who doesn't find Clinton to be a great president; The War Room is a fantastic documentary. Well-deserving of that Academy Award, and definitely deserving of the Criterion treatment. I'm really looking forward to it. (It's not really about "Clinton the President," anyway.)

I hope Criterion gets around to some of Demme's documentaries! That would be sublime.

Stop Making Sense already has a really excellent (if pricey) blu, and most of his more recent stuff is already out on good editions (Heart of Gold, The Agronomist, Jimmy Carter Man From Plains, etc.) Swimming to Cambodia could really use a rerelease, though.

That said, it seems like we've still got a new source of information to massage, so maybe we should hold off on random speculation until we've got as much as we can out of it.

Tom Hagen wrote:What Carville and Stephanopoulos came up with -- rapid response, the 24 hour campaign, winning small news cycles -- completely revolutionized the way American political campaigns operate. Now of course it seems so very quaint in retrospect, but at the time it was cutting edge. Carville is such a great character. After all those years on TV, people forget how unique the dude really was.

I hope Criterion excerpts the Carville/Matalin All's Fair 1992 memoir for the booklet. Still the single best inside baseball book I've ever read about campaigns and elections.

He was such a great character. I hope to God that Criterion does not pass up this oppurtunity! [-o<

matrixschmatrix wrote:Stop Making Sense already has a really excellent (if pricey) blu, and most of his more recent stuff is already out on good editions (Heart of Gold, The Agronomist, Jimmy Carter Man From Plains, etc.) Swimming to Cambodia could really use a rerelease, though.

Thanks for the info. I didn't know if the current DVDs were worthwhile. Now we may resume with interpretations of the photo.

Could that Lonesome title be Ride Lonesome?

I think that definitelysays Mahler and not Mailer. Is it possible criterion picked up other Ken Russell composer biopics to fill out an eclipse box? Or is it possible they got Dance of the seven veils to fill out the Mahler DVD?

Like Mahler, should the Dr. Seuss hint also be taken as an Eclipse set? I hope it ends up as part of the Collection, but I'm leaning more towards it being announced as an Eclipse set. If the decipherings of both of these are correct, I hope they are both released in a Paul Robeson sort of deal.

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movielocke wrote:Here's an upscaled version of the dr. seuss page.

I think that does make the page easier to read (though I can't make anything more out of it). Could you do something similar for the other pages?

The MK2 is a wash, it looks more less 'sharpied' through because the size of the printing is so much smaller than the handwriting. The best I can tell is no different from the raw image, and most of the time the GF processing makes it worst: that the first looks like La Regle de Jeu and the second looks like L'Argent, and the second from the last is maybe Trial of Jeanne d'arc

The middle page is somewhat better. I adjusted the levels on this to try and make the text stand out better and not get blurred by the surrounding colors so much, before white balancing, the upper right looks like La Haine, but this processing sort of washes that out, you can see it fairly clearly if you invert the image and look at the negative image.

Autumn Sonata is the only clear one, The last one in the left column looks like it could be Life is Beautiful (cue weaping and wailing and gnashing of teeth), The top film clearly starts with a Y and maybe ends with a R, it's two words.

The second from the top seems to be Red White Blue

the second from the bottom seems to be something something & Mary

I see Summer of Monica at the bottom right of the Seuss page. I also see War is over toward the top of the column. Does anyone see Golden..... Drummond? On the left?

We need to get a pharmacist in here! This shit is way too hard to decipher. I'm liking what I'm hearing, but the only one I can make out myself is War Room.

Thanks for enhancing this page, though.

In order, I think this is what we've got for that page:

War Room
Odd Man Out
?
Autumn Sonata
Sunday Bloody Sunday
Night to Remember

and then La Haine on the right column and ? under that.

For War Room and Odd Man Out, there are certain views where it's clear, but the handwriting is weird- I can guarantee Odd Man Out, though (I spent a lot of time on that one because it looked wrong to me)

I'm using a laptop, desperately tilting the screen back to make the text somewhat legible. I can clearly see the text, but I can't read the letters to the two blanks you have. It's so frustrating. The bottom right one looks like The A-----. I think it's a blu-ray upgrade, like La Haine.

Also, why isn't Arabian Nights mentioned alongside Canterbury Tales and The Decameron?

EDIT: Upon searching through the Criterion titles under "The A-----," none worked as a blu-ray upgrade. I still think the first letter of the longer word is either an "a" or a "q."

I'm not sure about this one, but I thought I saw The Vanishing on that list; maybe it's due for a new edition/Blu-ray upgrade. Any thoughts?

so if Odd Man out is confirmed, is The Man Between on the lists anywhere? I can't really make anything out of anything...but i'm old.

Under the hand looks like it might be a list of trilogy's they're working on--being so close to Qatsi. Under the thumb I see "trilogy 150/150". Under that, I can't make it out but "something-son something-man"; I'm reading Rockman... don't think it's Corman... I don't know. Then it looks like the word trilogy again. And last "Pasolini Life" as in his Trilogy of Life.

No one agrees that the bottom right row says Summer Of Monica?

And under Odd Man Out it definitely says Satyajit Ray Apu.

justeleblanc wrote:No one agrees that the bottom right row says Summer Of Monica?

And under Odd Man Out it definitely says Satyajit Ray Apu.

You've just blown my mind! \:D/

AfterTheRain wrote:I'm not sure about this one, but I thought I saw The Vanishing on that list; maybe it's due for a new edition/Blu-ray upgrade. Any thoughts?

Yeah, I think you're right. That was the one I was trying to decipher, but now I see it. That one was difficult.

*Frustration* ](*,)

Nobody's made a big deal of Rivette finally entering The Collection. Isn't that groundbreaking? Perhaps Out 1 is on the way. (Maybe Celine and Julie before that.)

One typically waits until an official announcement before popping the cork. Chickens before they hatch, and so forth.

Plus we've known Paris Nous Appartient would be coming eventually, and it's long been available in the UK, so no fanfare here (even though I'll pick it up..) Still no subtitled Pont du Nord, Duelle, Noirot, L'Amour Fou or Out 1 sadly (although according to MoC the US release of Out 1 is coming out shortly after the German dvd, so fingers crossed it's by Criterion!)