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knives wrote:That's awfully predictable of them, typically conservative.

That list doesn't really seem any more or less conservative or discerning than these ones for our forum (update coming in a couple months).

Although I suppose I can see the point that lists that introduce me to new things are more useful to me. There are some very good films on that list, but the ones I haven't seen were already on my to-watch list.

swo17 wrote:

knives wrote:That's awfully predictable of them, typically conservative.

That list doesn't really seem any more or less conservative or discerning than these ones for our forum (update coming in a couple months).

Although I suppose I can see the point that lists that introduce me to new things are more useful to me. There are some very good films on that list, but the ones I haven't seen were already on my to-watch list.

It looks like they're doing a separate feature of movies they feel were overlooked or under-reported upon tomorrow, which will hopefully be good for that.

Screen Actors Guild Awards Nominees
Demian Bichir for A Better Life

Wow, an Albert Brooks snub (they really like J. Edgar and Moneyball, huh?). I guess I was beginning to think he was a lock for an Oscar nom.

Matt wrote:Wow, an Albert Brooks snub (they really like J. Edgar and Moneyball, huh?). I guess I was beginning to think he was a lock for an Oscar nom.

In the end Jonah Hill just did a better job.

Manohla Dargis and A.O. Scott break down the year in film here. They each pick 20 or so alphabetical favorites. Manohla lays out why Hugo is so great, Scott includes A Brighter Summer Day on his list.

Jeff wrote:Golden Globe noms

Mistakes like this always amuse me:

Golden Globes wrote:1. BEST MOTION PICTURE – DRAMA
a. THE DESCENDENTS
Sofia Vergara
Ad Hominem Enterprises; Fox Searchlight Pictures

Nice to see Mara and Woodley get some recognition after getting ignored by the SAGs. Looks like Oswalt isn't going to get much awards buzz for Young Adult.

Wait a second. How did Breaking Bad get snubbed for Best TV Series?

Honestly, I probably should have waited until now for my goofy Muppets mini-rant because every single shitty musical gets tossed a bone in that category year after year (Burlesque for fucksakes) and nothing.

tarpilot wrote:Honestly, I probably should have waited until now for my goofy Muppets mini-rant because every single shitty musical gets tossed a bone in that category year after year (Burlesque for fucksakes) and nothing.

Good call. I'm disappointed it wasn't included.

I'm happy but not surprised Homeland has gotten multiple noms. Very surprised about Boss however.

To join on The Muppets rant, I've never heard any of these original song nominees, but I can't imagine any of them are as delightful as "Life's a Happy Song".

"Life's a Happy Song," "Pictures in My Head," and "Man or Muppet" all seemed likely inclusions. The Golden Globes are all about starfucking though, and you can't fuck a Muppet. They're hoping to get people like Elton John and Madonna to show up at their silly show. I think the Muppets will get their due at the Oscars.

Jeff wrote:"Life's a Happy Song," "Pictures in My Head," and "Man or Muppet" all seemed likely inclusions. The Golden Globes are all about starfucking though, and you can't fuck a Muppet. They're hoping to get people like Elton John and Madonna to show up at their silly show. I think the Muppets will get their due at the Oscars.

What wonderful justice it would be if Bret Conchords beat out Elton.

How is In the Land of Blood and Honey a foreign film?

The Narrator Returns wrote:How is In the Land of Blood and Honey a foreign film?

The award is for Best Foreign Language Film.

Film Comment polls for best films and best unreleased films.

The unreleased list is mostly superior to the main list.

Milos Stehlik of Facets Multimedia and Jonathan Rosenbaum participated in a podcast for the best films of the year, and both included their own lists.

Milos Stehlik's Top Films of 2011 (in no particular order)

1. Turin Horse
2. A Separation
2. In Darkness
4. We Need to Talk about Kevin
5. Tree of Life
6. Kid with a Bike
7. Le Havre

Milos Stehlik's favorite documentaries of 2011 (in no particular order)

1. Into the Abyss
2. Cave of Forgotten Dreams

Jonathan Rosenbaum's top picks for 2011

1. A Brighter Summer Day
2. Poetry
3. Le Quattro Volte
4. Mysteries of Lisbon
5. A Dangerous Method
6. Road to Nowhere
7. Putty Hill
8. Nostalgia for the Light
9. Cave of Forgotten Dreams
10. The Skin I Live In
11. Meek’s Cutoff
12. A Useful Life
13. Take Shelter
14. Into the Abyss
15. Go Go Tales
16. Serge Gainsbourg: A Heroic Life
17. Hugo
18. Carnage
19. My Perestroika
20. The Interrupters

Surprising to see Herzog movies on Rosenbaum's list, I recall him saying the only Herzog feature he liked was Aguirre and being fairly dismissive of his whole persona.

He talks about that in the broadcast - basically, he thinks Herzog's personality tends to overwhelm his films, but that wasn't the case with his last two docs, partly because of the subject matter.

He's always been fairly dismissive of Almodovar as well, so I'm pleased about The Skin I Live In.

hearthesilence wrote:Film Comment polls for best films and best unreleased films.

Gavin Smith and Scott Foundas discuss the lists here.

Critics of the world, year end lists are pointless if you include re-released films in them, even if you hadn't previously seen them and/or there were distribution issues in your country x number of years ago when the film was initially released.

Glenn Kenny addressed this in his blog, and I have to agree with him - putting films like "A Brighter Summer Day" in a poll only helps. It gets the word out for films that deserve a wider reception. I remember discovering "Army of Shadows" that way when it topped the L.A. Weekly poll in 2006...I was living in the midwest at the time, and that film never hit the local theaters so I never heard much of it.

Anywhere, IndieWire's poll is up, covering other categories as well.