Game of Thrones & House of the Dragon

[movielocke]

All the women seem to be set up to break bad this year, though Sansa is a question mark in that regard.

I'm still holding out hope that Jon snow is the child of Ned and a camp follower named Wylla, as Ned said, and that there is no magical king semen from rheagar targaryen or magical stark womb from Lyanna to make Jon genetically super / prophesied chosen one. That's the narrative rug I want yanked out from under fans.


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[knives]

Assuming Martin and co care anymore about the historical basis for the show isn't that theory automatically a no.

[SpiderBaby]

I like the fan theory that Lyanna actually had twins (Jon Snow and Meera Reed), creating an option for the 'dragon has three heads' theory. They split the kids up between Ned and Howland Reed.

[domino harvey]

GREAT episode, and a comforting promise that the show can still go on right-headed even when it's no longer directly cribbing from Martin's words. What a joy to see actual humor and grace notes and personality again

[YnEoS]

I agree, I thought this episode was quite strong. I think the show runners have shown they're capable of adding good material in the past. I believe all the scenes between Tywin and Arya weren't from the books, and those were some of my favorites in the series. And, Even though I wasn't a big fan of season 5, it apparently was more focused than the books which I heard introduced many new characters at that point.

Where I think I dislike their decisions is with their sometimes sadistic streak, which usually shows up a lot through Ramsay like with the changes with Sansa and the unnecessarily extended Theon torture. I'm a little bit nervous about Ramsay having prisoners again, but at least Osha is a lot more capable than his previous victims, so hopefully that won't be as bad as past stuff.

[domino harvey]

Oh, I agree, the show has long been able to bring something to the table, I was just worried after the first two episodes of this season were so disappointing that the contradictory rushed inertness might be the reigning tone going forward, but this episode had actual life and character to it beyond the plot necessities. Just compare Tyrion last week, with his embarrassing writers trying too hard dragon monologue and this week's far more in character and non-pandering extended comedy sketch, it's night and day

[Trees]

A pretty solid entry, though somewhat meandering in places. The opening scene with Jon Snow coming back to life was probably my favorite. Ser Davos can always be relied on for solid advice: "Good, now go fail again." The humor with the wildlings and resurrected Jon Snow was perfect.

With all of this methodical buildup and all of the converging storylines, one has to assume there is going to be serious sh#t hitting the fan later this season.

[knives]

Must be the return of Sam that has them back in the right mood. I do love how it seems like they're just reversing as quickly as possible as much of last season as they can.

[YnEoS]

Wow, didn't realize how much I wanted some of the Starks to finally get back together until this episode. Really glad the storylines are progressing faster and hopefully as more characters meet up we'll see more progress in each episode and less catching on on every corner of the world.

[Trees]

Oh yeah! Best episode yet of this season, by far.

Best line: "You didn't get much discipline as a child, did you?"

Looks like a huge battle is shaping up for Winterfell, and Ramsay is gonna get crushed; High Sparrow is about to be sent to the afterlife; and Daenerys is back on track to amass a huge army.

[Roscoe]

I'm losing interest in the doings at King's Landing -- get on with it already. And Ramsay Bolton's become a bore -- his scenes are becoming too repetitious: introduction, malign negotiation, sudden stabwound, surprised victim, black comic gesture to demonstrate callousness.

No denying the episode ended with a bang though.

[Trees]

You could say it brought the heat.

I'm looking forward to The Mountain making mincemeat out of the Sparrow and his followers.

[mfunk9786]

I was struck when Baelish pronounced that they were headed to the wall how long it would've taken for something like that to be pronounced, let alone to play out, in previous seasons of the show. They're definitely moving at an exhilarating clip.

[nosy lena]

Oh yeah! Best episode yet of this season, by far.

Best line: "You didn't get much discipline as a child, did you?"

Looks like a huge battle is shaping up for Winterfell, and Ramsay is gonna get crushed; High Sparrow is about to be sent to the afterlife; and Daenerys is back on track to amass a huge army.

yah, and next season they (all) attack westeros and in the final season daenerys and snow sing a song about fire and ice together.

snow and sansa meeting up was such a great moment.

[movielocke]

I was struck when Baelish pronounced that they were headed to the wall how long it would've taken for something like that to be pronounced, let alone to play out, in previous seasons of the show. They're definitely moving at an exhilarating clip.

The little finger scene feels like a scene written for the first episode and bumped to episode four in the editing

[miless]

the ending of episode five was completely devastating. One of the best moments of the series so far.

[mfunk9786]

HBO reminding us, yet again, that time is a flat circle

[nosy lena]

it's amazing how fast the show is going now.

[knives]

That's how you kill off a character. I was worried they were going to be consistently dropping the ball after the last couple.

[domino harvey]

The reveal of Hodor's purpose reminded me a lot of Stephen King's Insomnia, where the entire plot is at the service of saving the life of one boy because he will grow up to save the life of an important person later. Bittersweet but purposeful ending for that character

[domino harvey]

All the new theories about the series thanks to Bran's acts are kind of blowing my mind:

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Bran is the Lord of Light, speaking to characters and players in the past, and is also Bran the Builder, who made Winterfell thousands of years prior to the actions of the series, and also the inadvertent cause of the Mad King's insanity ala Hodor?

[nosy lena]

I don't know about all of that but I do think

Spoiler

that Bran will cross the wall, break the spell and make it possible for the Night's King and his army to cross to the world of men, thus sparking the great war. Bran the Destroyer.

I don't remember them showing this before but I thought it was very telling that they showed how the white walkers are very fragile to fire. You know, like from dragons.

[knives]

It was shown back when the first was killed by Sam. Anything dragon related (or as the book title suggests fire) is their weakness.

[miless]

All the new theories about the series thanks to Bran's acts are kind of blowing my mind:

Spoiler

Bran is the Lord of Light, speaking to characters and players in the past, and is also Bran the Builder, who made Winterfell thousands of years prior to the actions of the series, and also the inadvertent cause of the Mad King's insanity ala Hodor?

Spoiler

Bran is the blue-eyed giant (whom all men live in the eye of) that Robb mentioned as one of Old Nan's preposterous stories.
or that Bran is the many-faced-god, giving orders to the faceless men

[Trees]

This just keeps getting better and better. Loved the scene with Jorah and Daenerys.