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Finch wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:54 pm Richard Brody at the New Yorker couldn't restrict himself to 10

domino harvey wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:04 pm Apparently the Cahiers issue containing the above list also features multiple personal lists submitted to the journal by various directors. Hopefully these find their way online soon!

Do you have insight on the directors who agreed to participate in the list-making?

Jack Kubrick wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:11 pm

domino harvey wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:04 pm Apparently the Cahiers issue containing the above list also features multiple personal lists submitted to the journal by various directors. Hopefully these find their way online soon!

Do you have insight on the directors who agreed to participate in the list-making?

I don't, all I know is someone mentioned on the Awards Watch forums that they have the physical issue and that some of the choices of the directors were surprising

swo17 wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:27 pm Well, Strange Case of Angelica is great and I think has a lot of love on the forum, though I've never heard of it by that French title. The Moretti is completely unknown to me.

mfunk9786 wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:18 pm Read the thing that's right below it - I was not prepared, nor may I ever be, to weigh an 18 hour television series against any of those, so I punted. Cowardly, maybe, but at least I explained myself. Twin Peaks: The Return is on the shortlist of the most impressive works of art I've engaged with this decade, so of course I'm thrilled to see it top a list like this and feel it's deserved.

Right, I saw your explanation, I was more just calling you a coward.

And for the record, when our forum starts the 2010s list project next year, Twin Peaks: The Return will be eligible and anyone who loves it but doesn't vote for it on these grounds will also be a coward

fine

mfunk9786 wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:22 pm

swo17 wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:27 pm

mfunk9786 wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:18 pm Read the thing that's right below it - I was not prepared, nor may I ever be, to weigh an 18 hour television series against any of those, so I punted. Cowardly, maybe, but at least I explained myself. Twin Peaks: The Return is on the shortlist of the most impressive works of art I've engaged with this decade, so of course I'm thrilled to see it top a list like this and feel it's deserved.

Right, I saw your explanation, I was more just calling you a coward.

And for the record, when our forum starts the 2010s list project next year, Twin Peaks: The Return will be eligible and anyone who loves it but doesn't vote for it on these grounds will also be a coward

fine

No one could ever doubt your bravery for that list

Don't you mean Comment j'ai rencontré votre mère?

Can't wait til Godard runs out of good books to quote from and starts pulling from that tome

The Moretti is about as forgettable as the rest of his output. Strange Case alternatively is one of my all time favorites.

mfunk9786 wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:18 pm I was not prepared, nor may I ever be, to weigh an 18 hour television series against any of those

mfunk9786, not even 18 hours later, wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:22 pm fine

I'll be bringing this up if you ever run for president

My last name is "butt edge edge" so that's not gonna happen

Mia Madre in the decade's top 10. Man Caheirs do love throwing in random films onto their lists

It was their #1 film of 2015

The Cahiers list fails for me simply for their absence of Malick. Meanwhile, I would never have Melancholia remotely near a 10 best list. Peaks at the peak is great though I wouldn't place it that high. As to Angelica, not surprisingly I'm in full agreement with this though it too is somewhat overrated in Oliveira's 21st century work (for me the '02-'05 films are far greater and represent his last peak period; after that, I still prefer Christopher Columbus to this one). It is very far from "wankery" however, unless one simply associates his sense of humor with that; it is perhaps the best overall summation (late period or otherwise) of his ideas, interests and aesthetic, having the additional factor of being an adaptation of a script he wrote almost sixty years prior.

Yeah, what this list is really missing is Song to Song

Well, it's on mine.

That is indeed a good movie, but only his fifth best of the decade.

ETA: Meant to be a direct response to mfunk; John Cope, two questions: do you have any others on that list, and have you seen A Hidden Life?

While I don’t think Melancholia is even von Trier’s best movie this decade, it’s probably the film on their list that I’m least surprised by and that I’d expect to see on most decade-end lists, including members here. Point being, I think it’s less of a failure with their list and shines a light on my, or your, peculiarities. For the record I do still love the movie.

Malick, for all the seemingly pervasive gushing in cinephile circles, is very esoteric and I’m never surprised by his omission from, or hailed celebration in, any club anymore. For the record, I‘ve liked or loved most of his films this decade too! I liked Song to Song way more than Knight of Cups.

Any one person's top 10 should only ever share like 2 or 3 titles with a group top 10, or else that person might not actually be a person

Sadly I doubt La flor, Vox Lux or The House That Jack Built will land on any group lists, so hopefully I’m at least in consideration for personhood.

I reckon my own Top 10 for the decade is at minimum 90% movies that will be on one else's Top 10, but that's on everyone else, not me

No idea what my top 10 might be, gonna have to rewatch a lot of films first

domino harvey wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:14 am I reckon my own Top 10 for the decade is at minimum 90% movies that will be on one else's Top 10, but that's on everyone else, not me

You’ll eat those words when you see Moonrise Kingdom and The Young Pope on mine, bringing it to 80%

That is, in fact, my number one and two in order! (Though obv the Anderson is the one I figured had a chance)

therewillbeblus wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2019 12:00 am Sadly I doubt La flor, Vox Lux or The House That Jack Built will land on any group lists, so hopefully I’m at least in consideration for personhood.

Two of those films would be on my ballot.

Mysteries of Lisbon will be number 1 on my list since it's also number 1 in my all-timer list. And yes, I'm referring to the theatrical cut, not the longer TV version. Beyond that, I'd also include last year's Burning and Mad Max Fury Road. Need to go through my other lists to see what would be included though not Twin Peaks The Return, I think (mainly because nothing else in those 18 hours matches the heights of Parts 18 & 8).