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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:44 am
by Thomas J.
Lemmy Caution wrote:
Thomas J. wrote:It should mean option 2 because otherwise the category would have little to do with Criterion and mostly to do with the movie outside of Criterion's participation...and they are called the Criterion Awards after all.
I really don't follow that logic.

A film you were previously unaware of, which CC releases, and it totally wows your socks off seems to be a nice surprise that has everything to do with Criterion's efforts.

But welcome aboard anyway TJ.
Well, then explain your lack of following my logic.

Besides, if the award were for a film you'd never heard of before but then you saw it via the Criterion DVD and were like, "hey, that was great!" -- How is that a surprise reaction? Do you go into each viewing of a heretofore unheard of film thinking, "This is going to be pretty bad because I've never heard of it." Post-viewing, you're reaction is, "Hey, now that was surprisingly good!"

If that's what you interpret the word "surprise" to mean in this context, then ok, that makes sense, but judging a film as being bad based on lack of seeing it, and then being pleasantly surprised about the film's quality after you finally do see it...well, that's not my style of filmgoing, but to each his own, I guess. I just don't automatically think of a film I've never heard of as being automatically "bad." I try not to pre-judge a film and to have an open mind about it.

Besides, as I already explained, if surprise were meant to take that connotation for this particular award, as in "surprised about the quality of the film rather than Criterion's presentation of such," then what does that have to do with Criterion, and why then is it a category in a Criterion Awards?

I guess there's an 800 pound gorilla in the room here...in point of fact, we should be ridiculing the ambiguity of the word and the lack of clarification until now.

Thanks for the welcome to the forum, btw.

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:22 am
by domino harvey
The length of that response greatly outweighed my interest in it

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:25 am
by Jeff
How about next year we change the name of the category to "Best Discovery?"

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:40 am
by Thomas J.
domino harvey wrote:The length of that response greatly outweighed my interest in it
So, laziness is the best defense for flippant brevity these days? I expect more from a forum with such a stiff upper lip.

Anyway, I can tell we're going to get along great. :P

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:53 pm
by stroszeck
Wow, Raymond Bernard won over Ozu?

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 4:52 am
by ogygia avenue
Release of the Year:
Overlord
Ace in the Hole
Woman in the Dunes
Les Enfants Terribles
Border Radio

Best Eclipse Release
Early Bergman

Best Reissue:
The Lady Vanishes

Most Disappointing Release:
The fact that they put out Sweet Movie at all

Best Commentary:
Overlord

Best Supplement:
If Guy Maddin's essay on Ace in the Hole counts...

Best Package Design:
Days of Heaven

Best Surprise:
The US release of Overlord, a film high on my holy grail list for god knows how long...

Richard Cranium Award:
ogygia avenue