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Drucker wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:38 pm

barryconvex wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:16 am All I really want out of life is a CC upgrade of Le Trou. I'll buy every criterion employee a soda (of their choice) when that happens.

...I'd give my right arm for an original press of the first Modern Lovers album and then wound up finding one for...$25.

I'll trade you my Le Trou dvd for it. I'll throw in an arm of your choosing if you include the Japanese Road Runner / Pablo Picasso promo 45.

KL Insider admits that they don't really know if Criterion got back 'Ran' and then says this:

KL Insider wrote:The two films are in different leagues sales wise, LG may let go of RAN and could care less, but I would be surprised if they let go of THE THIRD MAN.

A blu-ray.com forum member GetHarryPalmer stated tonight that these are the SC titles Criterion acquired (mostly re-acquired) in the latest deal:

The Blood of a Poet
Le Cercle Rouge
Le Corbeau
Coup De Torchon
The Crime of Monsieur Lange
Diary of a Country Priest
The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
The Fallen idol
Forbidden Games
The Four Musketeers
Gervais
Le Jour Se Lève
Nights of Cabiria
The Phantom of Liberty
Peeping Tom
Pierrot Le Fou
The Servant
The Small Black Room
The Tales of Hoffman
The Testament of Orpheus
That Obscure Object of Desire
The Three Musketeers
The Trial
Le Trou
The White Sheik

And of course the already released Army of Shadows

WTF no Une femme est une femme?!

He was going by memory, so he may have neglected some. I was bummed Last Holiday wasn't listed, but that may be with Film Movement.

If this list is accurate, here are the OOP SC titles unaccounted for by any label:

El amor brujo
Blood Wedding
Carmen
Diary of a Chambermaid
Last Holiday
Mafioso
Mayerling
Murderous Maids
The Proud Valley
Variety Lights - One would think Criterion with the Fellini box set on the horizon
A Woman is a Woman

Is Pandora's Box not a SC title?

The DVD set has a copyright from Praesens-Film AG Zurich and no mention of Studio Canal.

Thanks. I sold my DVD copy in anticipation of a blu-ray release, that was about 3 years ago now, silly me.

It was mentioned elsewhere that PANDORA'S BOX seems to be with Kino now.

Glad to see Peeping Tom on that (hopefully accurate) list. That film needs to be done right in HD.

Fingers crossed they were also able to get RAN once more (assuming Palmer forgot some titles). edit: never mind, RAN was released through Lionsgate in the US so probably no.

Three cheers for Diary of a Country Priest, though I've been waiting for a decent restoration of The Trial on a shortlist of dream releases since I started collecting physical media, so that's the gold for me.

Roscoe wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 6:24 pm It was mentioned elsewhere that PANDORA'S BOX seems to be with Kino now.

Besides a theatrical page on the Kino site, what proof do you have for this? M was toured theatrically by Kino a few years ago and it never meant Janus / Criterion lost rights.

jwd5275 wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 7:59 pm

Roscoe wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 6:24 pm It was mentioned elsewhere that PANDORA'S BOX seems to be with Kino now.

Besides a theatrical page on the Kino site, what proof do you have for this? M was toured theatrically by Kino a few years ago and it never meant Janus / Criterion lost rights.

It is also OOP on the Criterion site.

Finch wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 7:39 pmFingers crossed they were also able to get RAN once more (assuming Palmer forgot some titles). edit: never mind, RAN was released through Lionsgate in the US so probably no.

You'd think that, but That Obscure Object of Desire was released by Lionsgate yet is on that list, so who knows.

HernandoBiggies wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 8:50 pm

jwd5275 wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 7:59 pm

Roscoe wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 6:24 pm It was mentioned elsewhere that PANDORA'S BOX seems to be with Kino now.

Besides a theatrical page on the Kino site, what proof do you have for this? M was toured theatrically by Kino a few years ago and it never meant Janus / Criterion lost rights.

It is also OOP on the Criterion site.

So are all the Antoine Doinel films. Are we assuming someone else has the rights to them?

All four of Criterion's Pabst films are being offered theatrically by Kino, three of which Janus is still offering theatrically on it's website (Pandora's Box has never been on the Janus site). Until we hear something different, I would take the Kino theatrical listing and the oop status of Pandora's Box as mere coincidences.

captveg wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 6:36 am A blu-ray.com forum member GetHarryPalmer stated tonight that these are the SC titles Criterion acquired (mostly re-acquired) in the latest deal:

The Crime of Monsieur Lange - This never got a good home video release in the U.S., and normally I'd be ecstatic because it is one of Jean Renoir's masterpieces. However, as discussed earlier, the most recent restoration doesn't look so hot, at least when it was shown in theaters, and I'm guessing that's what's going to be on the BD.

Diary of a Country Priest - Been expecting this for a long time now. It would've been great to re-issue it with First Reformed in theaters, but that moment has long passed.

The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie - The old StudioCanal BD (based off on an HD transfer from over a decade ago) is all right, but it wouldn't be difficult to do something better.

The Fallen idol - The StudioCanal UK BD looks great, and it came out five years ago - it's about time they put this out in the States.

Nights of Cabiria - This doesn't sound like the disastrous transfer I was fearing, which is great news.

Peeping Tom - Long overdue, the Film Foundation restored it a long time ago, but StudioCanal put out an atrocious release that looked like Vaseline from the excessive grain reduction. That was a decade ago though.

The Tales of Hoffman - The StudioCanal UK BD again looks great, yet another Film Foundation restoration, and once again, it's about time they put this out in the States.

That Obscure Object of Desire - The StudioCanal BD is mediocre. Not terrible, but the transfer looks its age and you can see something off with the grain reduction. A new transfer should easily look better.

Other favorites made it on that list, which I'm very thankful for, so there's a LOT to look forward to!

Kind of bumped that Grand Illusion is not on the list.

GetHarryPalmer later posted

My list is not a complete list, just what I'm pretty sure are with them.

Is GetHarryPalmer an insider or is he someone who created a guess list like myself and movielocke did upthread?

He's an insider. He posts here as well. A real character.

That's good. As close to a confirmation as there is

Pierrot Le Fou announced,

That makes two stand alone releases of formerly OOP SC titles, both are functionally the same edition (with new transfer for Godard), both were bluray when they went OOP, both were produced by Abbey Lustgarten (all her other OOP SC titles are with Kino).

the only other criterion that was bluray when it went OOP (that criterion is rumored to retain), is Le Cercle Rouge (produced by Susan Arosteguy)

summation post

Has there been any updates to the rumored or no-info sections of the above post since January? I'll update it if there has been.

I don’t think the Melville was a new transfer

Thanks I wasn't sure if it was. I updated my list with the downthread Get harry palmer info I missed earlier in the year