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Re: All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:01 pm
by Tom Amolad
Thanks! Others have had good experiences with the folks at 220 Electronics?

Re: All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:00 pm
by bad future
I ordered my region-unlocked sony ubp-x700 from them, and my interaction was limited to dropping it in my cart, checking out, and receiving it a short time later, but I would characterize it as a good experience. The player has worked perfectly for the last 3 years or so (A and B being the only blu-ray regions I've tried, but I switch between those pretty regularly with no problem.)

Re: All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:43 pm
by artfilmfan
I have bought several DVD/Blu-ray players from them over the years and have not had problem with the purchases or the players. The last one I bought was this Sony BDP S3700. It’s OK for playing the DVDs/Blu-rays, but very limited in streaming capabilities. If you plan on streaming, you might want to look for a more expensive model.

Re: All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:08 am
by Tom Amolad
Thanks, all!
I'm using other means for streaming, so it sounds like this is all I need.

Re: All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:53 am
by Michael Kerpan
You might want to make sure to get a multi-region player that can convert PAL to NTSC -- and not all of the multi-region players can do this.

Re: All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:01 am
by Tom Amolad
Oh, I forgot about that detail. (I last bought one of these fifteen years ago.)

Is it true of the Sony BDP-S3700 or do I need another?

Edit: I should have just checked the website before asking. They say it does.

Re: All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:45 am
by artfilmfan
I’ve just put into the player an MK2 DVD imported from France years ago with “Zone 2 DVD9 PAL” listed on the back cover and it plays fine on my NTSC TV.

Re: All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:51 am
by therewillbeblus
Tom Amolad wrote: Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:01 am Is it true of the Sony BDP-S3700 or do I need another?
You’re all set. That player plays multi-region DVDs and lasts forever. My UHD player won’t appropriately translate subs on R2 sets so I actually still use my Sony even more often (it’s also way easier to navigate with digital files on a USB too)

Re: All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:52 am
by Tom Amolad
Thanks, all!

Re: All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2023 5:46 pm
by senseabove
Since regionfreedom.com appears to have disappeared, someone over at avforums has taken it upon themselves to reverse engineer his firmware mod and intends to release it for free. He seems to have successfully reverse engineered the existing firmware/featureset already, and is now working on additional features and an installer.

Re: All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice

Posted: Tue May 23, 2023 12:05 pm
by jtlin
Any recommendations for a reliable EU (not post-Brexit UK) dealer? Germany, Spain, France, Scandinavia, Ireland...?

Moved to Europe after 20 yrs in the US, with my collection in tow, but all region locked blurays are currently decorating the shelves, and dvd's are playable only with my macbook...

Re: All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:37 pm
by Svevan
Hey all. I’m looking for a multi-region DVD and Blu-Ray player that I can use for exhibition purposes. The Sony S3700 that’s been recommended seems nice, however I additionally need as few onscreen playback icons as possible. Can anyone tell me if this or any other multi-region Blu player out there is free of onscreen icons during playback? Thanks!

Re: All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:28 pm
by tenia
I'm unsure if that's the proper place to post since I'm not exactly looking for an All Region player, but it seems like a close-enough place : I had a Panasonic BDT-110 US BD Player to play all my Region A and it, well, pretty much burned down a month ago.

I'm now looking for a US BD player that would replace it, ie quite a run of the mill one, as I'm only looking to read Region A BDs with it (no SACD, close to no DVD, no SVOD, etc). I'm seen either the Sony BX370 or the Panasonic BD84 (which are both currently at $78 on Amazon). Do you know if there is any known problematic issue with any of them (or maybe a clearly better player) or if they would be a good suit for such a (rather standard) use ?

Side question : my region B player still is my good ol' French PS3, but I'm also looking to possibly replace it for a regular player (which would consume less electricity), and since I'm at it, it'd be a UHD player. I've seen UK multiregion UHD players that aren't that expensive (on Multi Region Magic), but am I right that UK players might have issues with BDs with 50Hz content that we can get in France ? If so, that would eliminate this option as its main use would be for French discs. (which is why I'm thinking about remaining simple here : one US BD player for Region A discs, and one French UHD player for everything else).

Re: All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2023 4:11 pm
by therewillbeblus
I still have my Sony BDP-S3700 from about a decade ago and use it all the time. I actually prefer it to my Panasonic UHD player in almost every practical way - the USB drive and subtitle system is great, and I've never had playback issues with any disc. The only caveat (maybe) is that it'll shut off when a disc is paused after a period of time (don't recall how long, maybe like 20 minutes?) whereas the Panasonic stays on indefinitely. But it'll stay on if a film on your USB is paused.

The BDP-S3700 is what I recommend and/or buy for relatives looking for a solid region A player every time

Re: All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:00 pm
by tenia
Thanks for the advice. It's also $80 on Amazon, so I'll keep an eye on it.

Re: All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:29 pm
by therewillbeblus
tenia wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:00 pm Thanks for the advice. It's also $80 on Amazon, so I'll keep an eye on it.
It was a bit cheaper around the holidays last year. That might be the going price now, but it may be worth checking around Black Friday if you want a lower price.

Re: All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2023 7:41 pm
by tenia
I might cave in earlier than that, as I have tons of Region A discs so I'd like not to be unable to playback them for too long, but I wouldn't have expected a lower price considering $80 seemed already quite low to me. Good to know !

Re: All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:19 pm
by hearthesilence
I'm impressed your PS3 is still running - if it was manufactured locally, maybe they did a better job with the heat sink? Otherwise, there's a notorious manufacturing flaw where the heat sink is mostly a goo that dries up and becomes ineffective, which is what happened with mine. As a result, the player wouldn't activate, IIRC it would simply beep and flash an indicator light. There's a ridiculous fix for it, but it's a huge pain in the ass and likely temporary. Regardless, it only lasted a year, so it convinced me to spend the extra money on an Oppo, which was indeed more reliable and has lasted more than a decade now.

Otherwise, I'd recommend the Sony UBP-X800, but it's approaching $300 new. (I've seen used units regularly for much less than $200.)

Re: All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 2:18 am
by senseabove
The (free!) region free firmware patch for the 820 has been released, and while it ain't exactly pretty, it works. A kindly user wrote a step by step guide for using a virtual machine to run the patch.

Re: All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 3:48 pm
by tenia
The fan of the PS3 has actually started about 2 years ago being very active much more quickly than it used to. Before, it would only go turbine-mode during heatwaves, now it does so all year long (not straight away but after about an hour of use). I'm quite happy it's lasting that long, it's a solid BD player, so it's less money I spent on players so far, but it won't be eternal.

As for the UHD player, it'll probably either be the X800 or a UB820.

Re: All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:33 am
by AxeYou
tenia wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 2:28 pm but am I right that UK players might have issues with BDs with 50Hz content that we can get in France ? If so, that would eliminate this option as its main use would be for French discs.
Doesn’t UK also use the PAL standard and thus have 25/50 fps content? There have been many 25fps BDs released in the UK, e.g. Arrow’s Dekalog, Eight Hours Don’t Make a Day, Second Sight’s Berlin Alexanderplatz.

FWIW my region-free modded US-model Panasonic UB820 can play 1080p & 4K 25/50fps content natively on a TV that supports these refresh rates.
hearthesilence wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2023 9:19 pm Otherwise, I'd recommend the Sony UBP-X800, but it's approaching $300 new. (I've seen used units regularly for much less than $200.)
tenia wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2023 3:48 pm As for the UHD player, it'll probably either be the X800 or a UB820.
If you decide to go with Sony, make sure to get the X800M2. The base X800 model does not support Dolby Vision.

Some extra considerations re. Sony vs Panasonic:
- The consensus is the UB820 sees way fewer issues with disc freezing.
- If you fancy remuxing (e.g. alternative audio), X800M2 supports more formats with network-based playback, and is one of the only affordable devices that can play DV FEL remuxes.

Re: All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:06 am
by DeprongMori
See my comments above regarding playback issues of certain materials on the Panasonic UB820 when considering this player.

Re: All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:46 am
by tenia
AxeYou wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:33 am Doesn’t UK also use the PAL standard and thus have 25/50 fps content? There have been many 25fps BDs released in the UK, e.g. Arrow’s Dekalog, Eight Hours Don’t Make a Day, Second Sight’s Berlin Alexanderplatz.
I might be misrembering, but my memory was telling me this, but maybe I'm mixing this up with either DVD players or US players.
AxeYou wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:33 amIf you decide to go with Sony, make sure to get the X800M2. The base X800 model does not support Dolby Vision.
Yes indeed, I'm only considering the M2 version as I was aware of the DV support (or lack of).
AxeYou wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 4:33 amSome extra considerations re. Sony vs Panasonic:
- The consensus is the UB820 sees way fewer issues with disc freezing.
- If you fancy remuxing (e.g. alternative audio), X800M2 supports more formats with network-based playback, and is one of the only affordable devices that can play DV FEL remuxes.
That's the consensus I'm getting from France too, though we do have one label (BHQL) which seems to routinely have BD discs unreadable on UB820.
DeprongMori wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:06 amSee my comments above regarding playback issues of certain materials on the Panasonic UB820 when considering this player.
Just so I'm understanding this properly : do you have issues when playing discs outside of the normal region of your UB820 player, or will I have issues with, say, French discs if I'm buying a French UB820 ?

Re: All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 5:07 pm
by DeprongMori
tenia wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:46 am
[quote=DeprongMori post_id=799777 time=<a href="tel:1695035188">1695035188</a> user_id=24761]See my comments above regarding playback issues of certain materials on the Panasonic UB820 when considering this player.
Just so I'm understanding this properly : do you have issues when playing discs outside of the normal region of your UB820 player, or will I have issues with, say, French discs if I'm buying a French UB820 ?
My issues were with a US player firmware-modded for region selection on playback on lower-res PAL content (such as supplements) on Blu-ray discs. It outputs audio only for that PAL content. It will play PAL DVDs just fine.

Re: All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 6:51 pm
by AxeYou
DeprongMori wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 5:07 pm My issues were with a US player firmware-modded for region selection on playback on lower-res PAL content (such as supplements) on Blu-ray discs. It outputs audio only for that PAL content. It will play PAL DVDs just fine.
My US player works. Did you get a chance to try this:
AxeYou wrote: Fri Aug 18, 2023 11:22 pm
DeprongMori wrote: Fri Aug 18, 2023 6:57 am The 820 fails to play the video for the SD supplemental content found on the recent BFI Greenaway The Draughtsman’s Contract or the UK Witchfinder General Blu-rays, for example.
Took me a while, but I was able to find a PAL SD/50i extra on StudioCanal's The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie Blu-ray (Region B). Here it is playing just fine on my UB820 (Region A but modded): https://i.imgur.com/w8Edd86.jpg

And here it is playing an NTSC SD/60i extra on StudioCanal's Ran BD (Region B): https://i.imgur.com/iMUBzpR.jpg
DeprongMori wrote: Fri Aug 18, 2023 6:57 am I’m interested in trying out your remote workaround, if you have more details.
I modded with RattleByte's kit. They told me the button sequence was the following. However, idk if this applies generally to any modded UB820. Hope it works for you!
In order to switch off the 60p conversion, press the sequence "RED BLUE 2 3 4" in standby.