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Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:04 pm
by knives
That makes sense. My comp doesn't do the mousing over thing with these images for some odd reason.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:11 pm
by Finch
Only Rashomon and the Eclipse set for me this month. Can't stand Godard and Pasolini doesn't appeal to me (exception is Gospel According to Matthew) while Heaven's Gate intrigues me but not a blind-buy.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:43 pm
by movielocke
I'm really happy with the Eclipse, looks very fun. this is the first year with seven eclipse releases since 2008, glad to see they've marginally increased their effort (though with two two disc eclipse sets this year, maybe they didn't really make any additional effort).
Trilogy of Life looks like a great set, and I'm looking forward to picking up Rashomon. Shame about how sparse catalog blurays have been in 2012, I loved the 2011 frenetic pace of upgrades. Considering its reputation, I won't be blind buying Heaven's Gate.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:46 pm
by ryannichols7
my only complaints are the fact that we're getting Heaven's Gate (a terrible movie with not nearly enough bonus features) and not On the Waterfront AND there's only one upgrade. 2011's upgrade output kills this year. not that they haven't been good/needed upgrades, just way less frequent.
otherwise i'm buying Rashomon, Week End, Trilogy of Life (blind buy but those covers..), and probably the Eclipse.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:49 pm
by med
ryannichols7 wrote:my only complaints are the fact that we're getting Heaven's Gate (a terrible movie with not nearly enough bonus features)
Food was lousy, portions small, etc.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:11 pm
by Perkins Cobb
I think Heaven's Gate is a mesmerizing film, inspire of its (arguable) flaws. I thought its reputation had risen over the years -- Kevin Thomas liked it,
Scott Foundas defends it,
Jonathan Rosenbaum sees some value in it,
Michael Atkinson, Z Channel and Film Forum revived it, and the initial home video release of the long cut allegedly launched a "cult following."
But not here, I guess.
In any event it's a film you must see and make up your own mind about, rather than dismissing it based on its "reputation."
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:31 pm
by Wu.Qinghua
Bad reputation? This makes me think of Lindsay Anderson's Sight & Sound review of 'On the Waterfront'.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:33 pm
by felipe
6 releases? That's all? I expected November to be a big month, specially after we got only 4 releases in October. If we compare this to last year:
October and November 2011: 14 main line releases
October and November 2012: 10 main line releases
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:36 pm
by knives
The Trilogy of Life was clearly giving them trouble so its safe to assume all of their energy went there. No need to kevetch when you have gold.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:45 pm
by swo17
felipe wrote:6 releases? That's all?
Not sure where you're getting six. There are five new releases, though they comprise ten films and eleven discs.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:56 pm
by movielocke
swo17 wrote:felipe wrote:6 releases? That's all?
Not sure where you're getting six. There are five new releases, though they comprise ten films and eleven discs.
He's adding Rashomon to get to six, counting releases not new releases.
they've said in the past that a re-do of a catalog title takes as much resources as a new release.
And it's 15 discs for the mainline releases this month (dvd and bluray combined), not sure where you got eleven.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:13 pm
by Jean-Luc Garbo
Holy shit, it's been awhile since I wanted all of the releases! Thank god for that Rashomon upgrade, though. I almost bought it last month.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:17 pm
by swo17
movielocke wrote:swo17 wrote:felipe wrote:6 releases? That's all?
Not sure where you're getting six. There are five new releases, though they comprise ten films and eleven discs.
He's adding Rashomon to get to six, counting releases not new releases.
they've said in the past that a re-do of a catalog title takes as much resources as a new release.
And it's 15 discs for the mainline releases this month (dvd and bluray combined), not sure where you got eleven.
Rashomon is one of the five (that plus the trilogy,
Weekend,
Heaven's Gate, and the Eclipse). Eleven discs is just for the Blu-ray releases and the Eclipse. All combined, Criterion is producing 19 new discs in November.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:28 pm
by captveg
That's my count, too
Rashomon: 1 DVD, 1 BD
Trilogy of Life: 4 DVD, 3 BD
Weekend: 1 DVD, 1 BD
Heaven's Gate: 2 DVD, 2 BD
Eclipse 37: 4 DVD
DVD: 12, BD 7
19 total
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:29 pm
by warren oates
I can't relate to the griping this month. In terms of the quality of the films alone -- even if some were previously on DVD at the CC or elsewhere -- this is an amazing month. And I'll be happily picking up all the mainline Blu-rays.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:48 pm
by felipe
knives wrote:The Trilogy of Life was clearly giving them trouble so its safe to assume all of their energy went there. No need to kevetch when you have gold.
Well, I for one expected "bigger" releases for November. I mean, Heaven's gate and Trilogy of life could be considered big but they're not November big. I expected releases on the line of Brazil, On the waterfront, Y tu mama tambien, Wild strawberries blu, and so on...
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:53 pm
by knives
felipe wrote:knives wrote:The Trilogy of Life was clearly giving them trouble so its safe to assume all of their energy went there. No need to kevetch when you have gold.
Well, I for one expected "bigger" releases for November. I mean, Heaven's gate and Trilogy of life could be considered big but they're not November big. I expected releases on the line of Brazil, On the waterfront, Y tu mama tambien, Wild strawberries blu, and so on...
That just shows your priorities rather than the effort and 'bigness' of the releases. I certainly would consider for myself
Heaven's Gate to be of more worth than an
On the Waterfront release. That's just my priority again though. Point is that these are enough releases that took enough effort that they should be satisfactory to anybody.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:03 am
by mfunk9786
Not only is it the best month of releases in a while, but it's perfectly timed with the BN November sale.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:55 am
by movielocke
I'm bored and was curious what else was left, so I went through and looked for the 'wrong' guesses. A shame December is never a big month:
Eclipse:
Etaix
Rossellini History v2
Main Line:
On the Waterfront
Eraserhead
Mulhulland Dr.
Pina
Foreign Correspondent
Wenders Road set
Red River
Y Tu Mama Tambien
City Lights
Madadayo
King of Comedy
A Man Escaped
Immigrants/New Land
Shooting/Hired Hand
Bitter Rice
Re-releases & upgrades:
Brazil
Spartacus
Le Samourai
Wild Strawberries
Band of Outsiders
Life & Death of Colonel Blimp
Tokyo Story
Ikiru
Picnic at Hanging Rock
The Last Wave
Les Enfants Terribles
Gray Gardens
I am Curious
The Blob
Additional Wrong guesses from before this round of guessing (I went back to look for the posts of people guessing the rest of the year from a few months ago).
Eclipse
Czech new Wave vol 2
Frank Perry
Main Line
Ministry of Fear
The Tenant
The Uninvited
Short Films of David Lynch
Cure
Taking Off
Lili Marleen
Ghost World
The Soft Skin
4 months, 3 weeks, 2 days
Following
Qatsi Trilogy
Paris Belongs to Us
Naked Island
re-releases & upgrades
Grey Gardens/ Beales of Grey Gardens
Cria Cuervos
Kwaidan
Tin Drum
Life Aquatic
And the Ship Sails On
Knife in the Water
Bicycle Thieves
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:09 am
by ianungstad
With regards to my guess of "The King of Comedy", someone here posted back in the spring that they were talking to Thelma at a signing for the Hugo dvd about Criterion (and other special edition's of Scorsese's work) and asked if anything was in the works and she said "The King of Comedy" but the poster noted that she didn't specify if "The King of Comedy" was going to be a Criterion release or a special edition that Fox was going to do on their own. Fox has been in the doldrums for awhile but their plans for 2013 seem more ambitious, so I would guess maybe 50/50? It's not unlike the speculation regarding Spike Lee's 25th Hour.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:16 am
by movielocke
I think it's amazing that we managed to guess just about as many films for November as Criterion is likely to release in six months! :-p
I was wondering about why King of Comedy cropped up in several different places.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 2:17 am
by Jeff
ianungstad wrote:As for Mike Nichols...I think Janus has the rights to Day of the Dolphin and released it through HVe and they probably have Nichols & May: Take 2 from Westchester which would be a great supplement on a mainline release of Mikey & Nicky. (which was also a HVe release)
Dolphin was a StudioCanal license, so who knows how much longer they might have it.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:42 am
by felipe
Has there been any confirmation if Criterion will be releasing The kid with a bike?
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:42 am
by Vegeta84
A great month. Heavens Gate and Sci-Fi Eclipse are a must buy.
Still, there are so many Japanese films that Criterion has on Hulu that need releases.
Still shocked that there is no R1 of Bandits Vs Samuri Squadron out there. Feel like Criterion has been holding on to that film for so many years. Hunter In The Dark would be nice as well.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:44 am
by swo17
felipe wrote:Has there been any confirmation if Criterion will be releasing The kid with a bike?
Just that, as an IFC property, it's theirs if they want it.