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You guys are all on crack. On crack.

First, if Criterion releases The Gingerbread Man, O.C. and Stiggs, or basically any of his other insanely craptastic films on DVD I will personally send Peter Becker a box of my own feces in the mail. Who else is with me?

Second, the three MGM films turned out to be Pasolini' Trilogy of Life.

Third, That Cold Day in the Park is the closest Altman came to horror? Images! And in some circles Dr. T.

It's obvious that this is an Altman box consisting of Buffalo Bill And The Indians, OC And Stiggs, & Fool For Love, which all need upgraded anamorphic transfers from the original MGM releases.

On second thought you might have been joking with this comment. I apologize if that was meant to be ironic.

justeleblanc wrote:You guys are all on crack. On crack.

First, if Criterion releases The Gingerbread Man, O.C. and Stiggs, or basically any of his other insanely craptastic films on DVD I will personally send Peter Becker a box of my own feces in the mail. Who else is with me?

I'll contribute a squat to that box.

Altman boxset? Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

Jesus, anyone but Altman. C,mon Criterion, you have a finite number of releases each year. Please don't waste one on an Altman set. Give us some Russian cinema, some more (yes more) Japanese classics. Rare Kieslowski movies...... so many undiscovered treats. Kiju Yoshida for christ's sake!

Altman? Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Nobody said there was a boxset. This is all just speculation based off the fact Mulvaney indicated that more Altman will be added to the collection.

It's been a few days since that tired old arguement was brought up. (Yet again) I suppose it was only a matter of time.

ryan11 wrote:Jesus, anyone but Altman. C,mon Criterion, you have a finite number of releases each year. Please don't waste one on an Altman set. Give us some Russian cinema, some more (yes more) Japanese classics. Rare Kieslowski movies...... so many undiscovered treats. Kiju Yoshida for christ's sake!

May I be the first (of many?) to second this opinion?
On the other hand how about some Alan Rudolph? Namely WELCOME TO L.A. and the glorious REMEMBER MY NAME, before any more Altman!!!

justeleblanc wrote:Third, That Cold Day in the Park is the closest Altman came to horror? Images!

True, IMAGES has as much a claim to the stake. But I find THAT COLD DAY IN THE PARK more chilling than IMAGES.

There's always Basements in which the episode Pinter's The Room was rather disturbing; The Dumb Waiter feels just passable. It's always fun to watch the inevitable vitriolic backlash to Altman. Countdown, Quintet, O.C., Pret-a-Porter, and Kansas City don't work for me, but given his output I still love any number of other greats like McCabe, The Long Goodbye, and even The Wedding which I enjoy a lot. Nashville is not my favorite nor is Brewster McCloud, his own oft-cited favorite. I personally get into his small theatrical chamber dramas and live performance pieces whereas most people I know do not. (Black and Blue, The Real McTeague, Kansas City Rememberances '34, The Company, and even the much reviled Prairie Home worked better for me than most). His early TV career is also vastly overlooked.

PfR73 wrote: THAT COLD DAY IN THE PARK (of which a decent 35mm print or OAR VHS doesn't even exist).

Having seen "That Cold Day" just last night at the Silent Movie Theatre in Los Angeles (presented by the Cinefamily), I can attest to that. The print came from UCLA's archive and it had ripened into a disgusting shade of mauve. I'd never seen it before, but I thought it was immensely entertaining. It feels like a cross between a pot comedy, "Les Enfants Terribles", and "37°2 Le Matin" (hope that whets the appetites of everyone here that hasn't seen it!)

"OC & Stiggs", which screened in December at the same venue, looked great and I'm eternally grateful that I was able to see it on the big screen. I'm a real Altman apologist, and I have no shame in saying that I enjoy many parts of "Dr. T" and "Pret-a-Porter", but even I can't stand "Quintet".

Nobody needs to apologize for Altman. The haters above all have something deeply wrong with them.

Perkins Cobb wrote:Nobody needs to apologize for Altman. The haters above all have something deeply wrong with them.

The ultra-auteurists have something wrong with them if they want criterion versions of The Gingerbread Man and O.C. and Stiggs!

Bu then again, I don't understand why anyone would want Criterion to release anything that already has a dvd release in OAR and a watchable transfer.

George Kaplan wrote:

ryan11 wrote:Jesus, anyone but Altman. C,mon Criterion, you have a finite number of releases each year. Please don't waste one on an Altman set. Give us some Russian cinema, some more (yes more) Japanese classics. Rare Kieslowski movies...... so many undiscovered treats. Kiju Yoshida for christ's sake!

May I be the first (of many?) to second this opinion?
On the other hand how about some Alan Rudolph? Namely WELCOME TO L.A. and the glorious REMEMBER MY NAME, before any more Altman!!!

Completely agree with this sentiment! I already have DVD-Rs of each of these films from broadcast TV, but neither presentation was in widescreen, which makes it difficult to appreciate Altman's "Panavision" influence on Rudolph's sensibility.

Still, something is better than nothing, but these two 70's staples deserve a Criterion "twofer" and would be more valuable from a historical standpoint, examining Altman's mentoring of proteges, than any re-packaging or special editions of RA films already available.

Cinetwist wrote:But then again, I don't understand why anyone would want Criterion to release anything that already has a dvd release in OAR and a watchable transfer.

Good point!

Assuming Criterion has access to all these Altman titles and can take their pick, the clear choice is Brewster McCloud, a masterpiece that has never been released on dvd.

Daze wrote:Assuming Criterion has access to all these Altman titles and can take their pick, the clear choice is Brewster McCloud, a masterpiece that has never been released on dvd.

It's an odd film but I wouldn't say its a masterpiece by any means. His even more rare Come Back to the Five and Dime, Jimmy Dean is the film I would be most happy to see Criterion release. I caught that at the AFI Silver nearly 3 years ago and it really blew me away.

justeleblanc wrote:

Daze wrote:Assuming Criterion has access to all these Altman titles and can take their pick, the clear choice is Brewster McCloud, a masterpiece that has never been released on dvd.

It's an odd film but I wouldn't say its a masterpiece by any means. His even more rare Come Back to the Five and Dime, Jimmy Dean is the film I would be most happy to see Criterion release. I caught that at the AFI Silver nearly 3 years ago and it really blew me away.

Better choice. Criterion could tap into that market of Cher completists.

Any chance Un Chien Andalou would get a release? The current DVD could use restoration, and it would have been nice to see it as an extra on any one of the Bunuel films already released by Criterion.

That one in a double set with, shoot I forget how to spell it, that other one he did with Dali ala Sans Soliel and La jetee would be great.

knives wrote:That one in a double set with, shoot I forget how to spell it, that other one he did with Dali ala Sans Soliel and La jetee would be great.

Sorta like this, you mean.

Yeah, pretty much. Now I need an all region player.

I'd love to see Las Hurdes as an extra with, perhaps, Nazarin but since Kino has it I'm not going to hold my breath.

pauling wrote:I'd love to see Las Hurdes as an extra with, perhaps, Nazarin but since Kino has it I'm not going to hold my breath.

What does Kino have?

jaredsap wrote:I discovered tonight that MGM (not Paramount, as someone here thought) also owns THAT COLD DAY IN THE PARK

This is absolutely 100% incorrect. MGM has no rights to THAT COLD DAY IN THE PARK.

Jameson281 wrote:

jaredsap wrote:I discovered tonight that MGM (not Paramount, as someone here thought) also owns THAT COLD DAY IN THE PARK

This is absolutely 100% incorrect. MGM has no rights to THAT COLD DAY IN THE PARK.

Since you've purported to be an MGM(-related) person in the past, I'll take you at your word. The person who told me this usually knows his stuff but I guess in this case he was mistaken.

In that case, I'll revert to my previous supposition that it is a Republic film owned by Viacom and currently under license to Lionsgate. I need someone from Lionsgate to join the forum and confirm or deny!