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Re: New Films in Production
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:40 pm
by James Mills
I'm not sure it's worth a recapitulation seeing that you're surely already aware of this, but there happens to be a huge difference between LotR and Twilight. The differences in Jacob/Jason's role or whatever and Aragorn's is substantial too.
Re: New Films in Production
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:43 pm
by domino harvey
To be fair though, how many of those bellyaching have actually seen one of the movies he's acted in?
Re: New Films in Production
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:48 pm
by swo17
James Mills wrote:I'm not sure it's worth a recapitulation seeing that you're surely already aware of this, but there happens to be a huge difference between LotR and Twilight. The differences in Jacob/Jason's role or whatever and Aragorn's is substantial too.
Other than the fact that the films have different titles and were fashionable in different halves of the last decade, I fail to see much of a difference. I would, however, expect to see a marked difference between
Twilight and a Cronenberg film.
Re: New Films in Production
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:53 pm
by mfunk9786
I've never seen the guy act, but Croenenberg tends to get the most out of his actors. This is a Punch-Drunk Love situation all over again.
Re: New Films in Production
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 6:55 pm
by Murdoch
Markson wrote:Robert Pattinson has been selected to star in Cronenberg's adaptation of DeLillo's
Cosmopolis.
I look forward to the future Pattinson vs. Giamatti tween debate.
Re: New Films in Production
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 7:56 pm
by flyonthewall2983
swo17 wrote:All of you guys six years ago wrote:I can't believe Cronenberg's going to make his next three films starring some guy from Lord of the Rings.
Almost funny if it weren't for the fact Viggo had a more solid body of work behind him before he ever did
LOTR.
Re: New Films in Production
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:18 pm
by willoneill
Personally I thought Pattinson was decent enough in that one Harry Potter flick, and of the brief few minutes of one of the Twilight movies I saw on cable, he was better than most of the other cast. I'm going to stick up for my fellow Canadian Cronenberg and say that he doesn't cast actors for their box office draw, so I'm guessing Pattinson has impressed him in some way. Plus, on a more general level, I don't think it's fair to judge an actor based on their most franchisable film roles, especially early in their career. For all we know, Pattinson might be the next Olivier. He had a shot at some easy money when he was young, and now he can go out and pick and choose whom he works with, like say, David Cronenberg. Good for him.
If it turns out he sucks, than I'll stand corrected, but until then, I put my faith in Cronenberg.
Re: New Films in Production
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:15 am
by knives
Pattinson may be know for shit movies, but he has a lot of talent. You can't judge a guy when he is sleepwalking(he hates those movies more than anyone here). I thought he made a really good Dali in the otherwise okay Little Ashes for example. At the very least this is keeping within the talent of his original choice.
Re: New Films in Production
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:21 am
by matrixschmatrix
Honestly, as long as it's not Kristen Stewart, I don't think anyone in the Twilight movies is automatically disbarred from ever being good in anything.
Re: New Films in Production
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:48 am
by James Mills
matrixschmatrix wrote:Honestly, as long as it's not Kristen Stewart, I don't think anyone in the Twilight movies is automatically disbarred from ever being good in anything.
Agreed. That girl just ruins anything she shows her face in, straight up. She's like Keira Knightly times 5.
Re: New Films in Production
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:51 am
by matrixschmatrix
She was memorably referred to (in a review of The Runaways in the AVClub) as a "Dead-eyed talent vacuum", which is such an admirable summary of her talent that I can't think of anything else when watching her.
Which actually makes me worry she's secretly good and I'm just distracted by a great insult. Ah, well.
Re: New Films in Production
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:49 am
by Mr Sausage
knives wrote: You can't judge a guy when he is sleepwalking(he hates those movies more than anyone here).
Did he mention this in an interview?
Re: New Films in Production
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:38 am
by knives
Yes, I forget which interview but he said something along the lines of the books are poorly written and creep him out a bit because they read like someone's wet dream. He also made fun of his character as a creepy 100 year old virgin stalker.
Re: New Films in Production
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:48 am
by James Mills
If everyone hated me for contributing to the stupidest media craze since the Backstreet Boys, I'd tell people "I hate it!" too. Hell, I assume even the Backstreet Boys did that after they cashed in.
Re: New Films in Production
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:17 am
by stwrt
Thought she was quite good in Panic Room - haven't followed her career since that movie.
Re: New Films in Production
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 12:45 pm
by Mr. Ned
I think Pattinson in Cosmopolis is a genius move by Cronenberg. I read the novel for a lit. class years ago and I think the casting is dead-on for the character; for those who've read the thing, agree/disagree?
Re: New Films in Production
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:52 pm
by matrixschmatrix
stwrt wrote:Thought she was quite good in Panic Room - haven't followed her career since that movie.
Wow, I had no idea that was her. Well, now there's at least one thing I've liked her in.
It's funny, all I remember people mentioning about her in that movie was her character's androgyny.
Re: New Films in Production
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:04 pm
by Brian C
I don't think Stewart is terrible as much as she's one-note. She has the sullen teen thing down, and in a small role that doesn't demand more than that - like Sean Penn's Into the Wild - she's fine. But when called on to show more than that, as in The Runaways, she tends to fall back on her one note. This was also a problem in Adventureland, I thought. Her characters come across as single-minded and dull.
I remain agnostic on the Twilight films, as I haven't seen them, but I would imagine that she delivers exactly what the primary audience wants from her.
Re: New Films in Production
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 2:07 pm
by ambrose
Re: New Films in Production
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:14 am
by ianungstad
We Need to Talk About Kevin is one of the films debuting in 2011 that I'm really looking forward to. The film doesn't have a US distributor yet and with the recent shooting spree in Arizona, I think it's pretty safe to say that all the majors will pass on the project. Hopefully a smaller label like IFC or Magnolia will pick the film up. I'm a little concerned it will either be shelved or delayed in the United States. It's too bad that the film will almost certainly not get the release it deserves due to recent events. You have to feel bad for Lynne Ramsay.
Re: New Films in Production
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:09 pm
by Duncan Hopper
ianungstad wrote:We Need to Talk About Kevin is one of the films debuting in 2011 that I'm really looking forward to. The film doesn't have a US distributor yet and with the recent shooting spree in Arizona, I think it's pretty safe to say that all the majors will pass on the project. Hopefully a smaller label like IFC or Magnolia will pick the film up. I'm a little concerned it will either be shelved or delayed in the United States. It's too bad that the film will almost certainly not get the release it deserves due to recent events. You have to feel bad for Lynne Ramsay.
Especially after she got shafted by Peter Jackson over the Lovely Bones. She really doesn't seem to be having much luck.
Re: New Films in Production
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:29 pm
by James
Written by the guys who did
Valkyrie with Tom Cruise and likely to be a movie with Italians speaking English... I'll pass.
Re: New Films in Production
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:35 pm
by ambrose
James wrote:
Written by the guys who did
Valkyrie with Tom Cruise and likely to be a movie with Italians speaking English... I'll pass.
You don't honestly think that I have any desire let-alone intention of seeing that film either do you? When I posted that production information I did so in an entirely neutral fashion!
Re: New Films in Production
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:44 pm
by mfunk9786
Wait... he didn't accuse you of wanting to see it.
Re: New Films in Production
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:03 pm
by ambrose
mfunk9786 wrote:Wait... he didn't accuse you of wanting to see it.
Your right of course! But he did seem quite hostile towards the mere presence of the production details, that by-itself might have lead to my overreaction.