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Re: Awards Season 2011
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:32 pm
by matrixschmatrix
I think it's reasonable to put it in your list if it was theatrically released for the first time in your country that year- I mean, Certified Copy came out in 2008, but to me it's a 2011 film because that's when it came out here. That gap is bigger for A Brighter Summer Day, but it's the same principle.
Re: Awards Season 2011
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:37 pm
by Brian C
Agreed. Rosenbaum used to make this point with every year-end list he published in the Chicago Reader - that it was pointless to list movies that had not played in Chicago, because his readers had no chance to see them. A corollary of that is that he couldn't possibly see every movie released internationally in any given year anyway, so pretending to be comprehensive was just self-indulgent posturing.
On the other hand, Rosenbaum's also up front about not having just one year-end list, and submitting different lists to different publications.
Re: Awards Season 2011
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:47 am
by Jeff
Re: Awards Season 2011
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:20 pm
by hearthesilence
Chipwrecked? Jesus, they made a third Alvin & the Chipmunks movie??
Re: Awards Season 2011
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:14 pm
by mfunk9786
Why not? They're for little kids - might as well give them more of what they've established that they want.
Re: Awards Season 2011
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:30 pm
by hearthesilence
Are there that many kids who really like the Chipmunks that much? To be fair, I watched one of their crappy shows as a kid, but only because it was on in the morning or before/after school (like dozens of other crappy shows that I watched at the time). I wasn't exactly traumatized when they yanked every last bit of them off the air, and I don't remember any of the other kids getting excited over them, much less buying or wearing any of their merch.
I don't know, I'm not a parent but I wonder if families just go to these things because it's the only familiar (sadly, important), safe-as-milk junk that's in the theater.
Re: Awards Season 2011
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:39 pm
by Matt
Kids will watch any old crap, same as it ever was. The first and second movies made $217 million and $219 million, respectively. That's a lot of money. Given the soft opening of the new one ($23 million vs. the second movie's $48 million), though, it could be the last. And then some other junk will come along to take its place.
Re: Awards Season 2011
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:25 pm
by mfunk9786
I don't know that it's worth directing anti-Hollywood anger at films made for preschool-aged kids.
Re: Awards Season 2011
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:44 pm
by hearthesilence
Jesus, $220 million? It's more than just preschoolers watching those films. Anyway, people used to complain about
Transformers - that was just a TV show (or rather
30-minute commercial) for kids too, but look at the impact its success has had on the current business model with Hollywood studios.
Re: Awards Season 2011
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:58 am
by tavernier
Black Film Critics Circle award winners
Best Picture - THE HELP
Best Director - Dee Rees for PARIAH
Best Actor - Olivier Litondo for THE FIRST GRADER
Best Actress - Viola Davis for THE HELP
Best Supporting Actor - Albert Brooks for DRIVE
Best Supporting Actress - Octavia Spencer for THE HELP
Best Independent Film - PARIAH
Best Original Screenplay - Dee Rees for PARIAH
Best Adapted Screenplay - Tate Taylor for THE HELP
Best Documentary - BEING ELMO: A Puppeteer's Journey
Best Foreign Film - LIFE, ABOVE ALL
Best Animated Film - RANGO
Best Ensemble - THE HELP
Re: Awards Season 2011
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:02 am
by mfunk9786
Wow, that Albert Brooks win is about as random as it gets.
Re: Awards Season 2011
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:20 am
by domino harvey
mfunk9786 wrote:Wow, that Albert Brooks win is about as random as it gets.
They probably remember this
Re: Awards Season 2011
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:08 pm
by hearthesilence
The Village Voice poll (and the last major poll of the year).
Another win for
The Tree of Life, a few differences of opinion (compared to other polls) in terms of what qualifies as a lead role vs. a supporting role and Shannon actually runs away with the Best Actor race.
Re: Awards Season 2011
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:01 pm
by colinr0380
Matt wrote:Kids will watch any old crap, same as it ever was. The first and second movies made $217 million and $219 million, respectively. That's a lot of money. Given the soft opening of the new one ($23 million vs. the second movie's $48 million), though, it could be the last. And then some other junk will come along to take its place.
Does that mean there's an opening for a
Dogtanian and the Three Muskehounds film? In the irritating theme tune stakes it has to be running the Chipmunks a close second.
Re: Awards Season 2011
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:02 am
by Jeff
The Academy has released a list of the
97 scores eligible for consideration in that category. Cliff Martinez's excellent score for
Drive and The Basement Jaxx on
Attack the Block got the shaft. Rooting for the Chemical Brothers and Reznor/Ross now.
Re: Awards Season 2011
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:31 am
by Jean-Luc Garbo
Jeff wrote:Rooting for the Chemical Brothers and Reznor/Ross now.
Would the latter score even win again? They already have an Oscar for
Social Network. It'd be great if they won again because this score is even better. It certainly filled out moments in the film where the acting and directing felt too slack for me. I love the
Hanna score, but it seems like it wouldn't get a nod.
Re: Awards Season 2011
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:08 am
by mfunk9786
The directing felt slack to you in The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo?! Did we see the same film? David Fincher has been accused of quite a few things, but letting his direction slip into feeling slack has never been one I've heard.
Re: Awards Season 2011
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:27 pm
by Anhedionisiac
Yeah, Jean-Luc Garbo. I had quite a few problems with TGWTDT but they all stem from how generic the source material is. It's understandable that a lackluster story should make everything else feel boring but I think the directing and acting (mind you, it's not the actors' fault if the characters leave a lot to be desired) is about as top-notch as you can get.
Re: Awards Season 2011
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:36 pm
by kinjitsu
Re: Awards Season 2011
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:57 pm
by lacritfan
Re: Awards Season 2011
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:07 pm
by matrixschmatrix
Haha, did they really nominate an episode from the most recent season of Dexter for an award based on the quality of its screenplay?
Re: Awards Season 2011
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:11 pm
by Matt
Have they always given separate awards for overall show and single episode of a show? I guess that makes sense, since most other awards are also for single episodes but give the impression that it's for the overall show, but I never noticed it before.
Re: Awards Season 2011
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:08 pm
by eerik
For what it's worth, Estonian film journalists' top ten films released theatrically in Estonia last year:
1. Melancholia
2.-3. Winter's Bone / Le Havre
4. Exit Through the Gift Shop
5. The Artist
6.-7. Drive / Biutiful
8.-9. Black Swan / The Tree of Life
10. The King's Speech
Re: Awards Season 2011
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:36 pm
by Jeff
The
National Society of Film Critics made great choices in each category:
BEST ACTOR
*1. Brad Pitt – 35 (Moneyball, The Tree of Life)
2. Gary Oldman – 22 (Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy)
3. Jean Dujardin – 19 (The Artist)
BEST ACTRESS
*1. Kirsten Dunst – 39 (Melancholia)
2. Yun Jung-hee – 25 (Poetry)
3. Meryl Streep – 20 (The Iron Lady)
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
*1. Albert Brooks – 38 (Drive)
2. Christopher Plummer – 24 (Beginners)
3. Patton Oswalt – 19 (Young Adult)
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
*1. Jessica Chastain – 30 (The Tree of Life, Take Shelter, The Help)
2. Jeannie Berlin – 19 (Margaret)
3. Shailene Woodley – 17 (The Descendants)
BEST PICTURE
*1. Melancholia – 29 (Lars von Trier)
2. The Tree of Life – 28 (Terrence Malick)
3. A Separation – 20 (Asghar Farhadi)
BEST DIRECTOR
*1. Terrence Malick – 31 (The Tree of Life)
2. Martin Scorsese – 29 (Hugo)
3. Lars von Trier – 23 (Melancholia)
BEST NONFICTION
*1. Cave of Forgotten Dreams – 35 (Werner Herzog)
2. The Interrupters – 26 (Steve James)
3. Into the Abyss – 18 (Werner Herzog)
BEST SCREENPLAY
*1. A Separation – 39 (Asghar Farhadi)
2. Moneyball – 22 (Steven Zaillian, Aaron Sorkin)
3. Midnight in Paris – 16 (Woody Allen)
BEST FOREIGN-LANGUAGE FILM
*1. A Separation – 67 (Asghar Farhadi)
2. Mysteries of Lisbon – 28 (Raoul Ruiz)
3. Le Havre – 22 (Aki Kaurismäki)
BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
*1. The Tree of Life – 76 (Emanuel Lubezki)
2. Melancholia – 41 (Manuel Alberto Claro)
3. Hugo – 33 (Robert Richardson)
EXPERIMENTAL
Ken Jacobs, for “Seeking the Monkey King.”
FILM HERITAGE
1. BAMcinématek for its complete Vincente Minnelli retrospective with all titles shown on 16 mm. or 35 mm. film.
2. Lobster Films, Groupama Gan Foundation for Cinema and the Technicolor Foundation for Cinema for the restoration of the color version of George Méliès’s “A Trip to the Moon.”
3. New York’s Museum of Modern Art for its extensive retrospective of Weimar Cinema.
4. Flicker Alley for their box set “Landmarks of Early Soviet Film.”
5. Criterion Collecton for its 2-disc DVD package “The Complete Jean Vigo.”
Re: Awards Season 2011
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:58 pm
by matrixschmatrix
Nice to see the BAM getting some recognition. I'm surprised they awarded Plummer for his work in Beginners with no mention of The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo, too.