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Omensetter wrote:2016 was really the only outlier... there seemed to be some sort of a dispute between Dolan and the Coens over Carol, perhaps resulting in Dheepan. There wasn't much enthusiasm at that post-awards press conference.

At that press conference, one of many reasons I've grown fond of Jake Gylenhaal in recent years:

Todd Haynes’s Carol, widely tipped for big prizes, had to make do with a shared Best Actress for Rooney Mara – the explanation being that Dolan had far less time for it than anyone else, and may have resorted to some toys-out-of-pram tactics to block it from higher consideration... The jury also got a final dig in. When Dolan said, “I somehow feel like a better person” towards the end of the jury press conference, Gyllenhaal was simply heard to mutter, “You’re not.”

I thought that quote had been attributed to Ethan Coen?

knives wrote:As Fraublucher said they definitely don't. Maybe a few stray weirdos would protest it, but otherwise I wouldn't be surprised if they simply didn't know it existed. Some of these people, mostly the Burrow Park sort than the Williamsburg sort, are basically Amish when it comes to film with even nature films being considered a waste of time and potentially inappropriate. The hipsters that live with them might be attracted to smugly watch though.

Burrough Park was the neighborhood I referred to in my earlier post. That neighborhood borders with Bensonhurst. I pretty much lived on the street that divides the two. It was very interesting with a big Italian American population and Hasidim population intermingling and not always in a get along way.

I just watched the trailer to Menashe. It will be interesting to see what kind of response it gets from it's community. The following is a Q&A with Joshua Weinstein and the lead principals. This will give you a little insight into that world.

mfunk9786 wrote:I thought that quote had been attributed to Ethan Coen?

It was indeed Coen.

Dolan is a talentless shit, and yet Cannes insists on inflicting him on us year after year.

I was researching the Cesars the other day and was surprised how much they loved Dolan too. Maybe it's just a French thing

mfunk9786 wrote:I thought that quote had been attributed to Ethan Coen?

I thought the same thing too, and may have disseminated that information on this forum. The article says Gyllenhaal, though, and this tweet from the same time period places Gyllenhaall as the speaker: https://twitter.com/watchcowboyfilm/sta ... 05?lang=en.

More conclusively, here's the actual video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUu62UlGOvw&t=1410s

People in Film Power Ranking Adjustment
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It's always nice to have a three-year old memory corrected. I even linked to DarkImbecile's article in the Dheepan thread upon its Criterion announcement.
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This Labaki is starting to get slammed. It might well prove the most divisive of the festival. I suppose this is what happens when the follow-up to a TIFF's Audience Award winner plays Cannes. Like, it's getting slammed by some more mainstream critics from outlets like Indiewire that I don't bother with unless I'm trying to get a sense of a film that I won't see for months. I suppose we'll see later tonight or anytime now?

Having watched that now, I'm not actually sure that comment was meant as anything other than a playful dig – there certainly didn't look to be any malice intended.

domino harvey wrote:I was researching the Cesars the other day and was surprised how much they loved Dolan too. Maybe it's just a French thing

Believe me, many of us would like this to stop.

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knives wrote:I have to admit I don't understand this assumption that religious Jews watch movies?

The synagogues bring their members for a special trip to the movies by watching something that's reflective of their theology.

Not sure there are a lot of movies catering to that market.

In the 90s I lived Stamford Hill, a part of London largely populated by Orthodox Jews. There often were boys with sidelocks hanging out at the local video store, watching the movies which were playing on monitors there. I once asked a couple of them why and they said they didn’t have a television at home and they weren’t allowed to go to the cinema. Like any teenagers they were rebelling in little ways. I once found a group of boys outside my door where they weren’t seen by their family, with a boombox listening to hip hop, smoking.

It wasn’t just the kids though, I found that extreme repression resulted in a lot of transgressive acts by adult men. Gay cruising, exibitionism (one older man regularly used to expose himself to non-orthodox women on public transport) I saw it all. The community even had its own transvestite in orthodox female garb, who used to clump around late at night, trying to flirt with men and speaking in a falsetto voice.

furbicide wrote:Having watched that now, I'm not actually sure that comment was meant as anything other than a playful dig – there certainly didn't look to be any malice intended.

Yeah, when I initially watched it, Gyllenhaal came off as more endearing. At first, his doggedness to get his quip in seemed a gesture belying a deeper rift that can easily occur in these high-stakes subjective deliberations, but there's no reason for me (and the media) to project maliciousness when there's no evidence of it. In the clip, Gyllenhaal ensured that Dolan saw him grinning, which really just seems to indicate that Gylenhaal wanted to ensure that Dolan knew he wasn't coming after him. It's probably time to retire that Cannestroversy and admit that it stems from scorned Carol fans and Dolan detractors like myself. Gyllenhaal is, after all, starring in Audiard's latest film.

Magnolia has bought Shoplifters for the US.

Ribs wrote:lol Magnolia bought Shoplifters

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Glad to see both Burning and Shoplifters (my most-wanted-to-be-able-to-see- as-soon-as-possible films at the festival) are getting pretty uniformly positive reviews.

UCR Award: Border by Ali Abbasi
UCR Jury Prize: The Dead and the Others by João Salaviza and Renée Nader Messora
UCR Award for Best Director: Sergei Loznitsa for Donbass
UCR Jury Award for Best Performance: Victor Polster for Girl
UCR for Best Screenplay: Meryem Benm'Barek-Aloïsi for Sofia

(Bi Gan will be fine.)

The Queer Palme went to Lukas Dhont's Girl.
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Capernaum, Knife + Heart, Ayka, and The Wild Pear Tree seemed to have been crammed in at the end, with the latter being three hours. Perhaps as a result, I don't really have a gauge on Ayka. Mixed, at least. The Wild Pear Tree is just plumb picking up raves to end up this festival of seemingly endless raves. Now, to see the films in a few months/years (still need to find a way to see A Gentle Creature and Sieranevada), if not longer if no one picks up the fifteen films currently unspoken for in competition, to say nothing of the other sidebars.

Predictions
Palme d'Or --- Alice Rohrwacher, Lazzaro felice
Grand Prix --- Pawel Pawlikowski, Cold War
Director --- Kirill Serebrennikov, Leto & Jafar Panahi, Three Faces
Screenplay --- Nadine Labaki, Capernaum
Actress --- Samal Yeslyamova, Ayka
Actor --- Marcello Fonte, Dogman
Jury --- Spike Lee, BlacKkKlansman

I think Hirokazu Kore-eda's supposed win something as well, but I'm too lazy to edit my post.

Lee Chang-dong and Lukas Dhont also won the FIPRESCI awards.
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Briefly, on Ceylan: For some reason, I love him just coming here every three-to-four years with a three-hour film in which he sincerely engages in big issues that are as old as imaginale. Anatolia (still his peak) and Winter Sleep were masterful, and I'm pressed to think of another director at the moment that does what he does. His films are fairly unfashionable and he'll probably find himself out of fashion at some point in the future, but he cares about what he engages in all the same.

I won't see it until its release in August, but I'm hearing rumors of a Spike Lee victory which I already strong disagree with based on the inclusion of some footage I won't spoil. I'll get over it if it happens obviously, but it's just what I'm hearing. I really think they should just give it to Rohrwacher. By all accounts, her film is Palme-worthy (whatever that means) and it'll put an end to the Campion statistic that is trotted out every year. Better her than Labaki, it would seem.

Apparently, Chang Chen really loved Jia's film. He's still young, but Jia might find himself in the list of great directors who debuted at Cannes and never won the Palme. Perhaps he'll abandon his tripartite structure next decade.

Predictions
Palme d'Or: Cold War, Pawlikowski
Grand Prix: Shoplifters, Kore-eda
Director: Rohrwacher, Lazzaro felice
Screenplay: Burning, Lee/Oh
Actress: Zhao Tao, Ash is the Purest White
Actor: Marcello Fonte, Dogman
Jury: BlacKkKlansman, Lee

Livestream of the awards ceremony (supposedly starting in 15 minutes), if anyone's interested

All my usual outlets for the final ceremony have forsaken me, alas (Canal+ included).

Apparently, Asia Argento went off on Weinstein!

Camera d'Or --- Lukas Dhont, Girl
Actress --- Samal Yeslyamova, Ayka

Screenplay --- Alice Rohracher & Jafar Panahi

This seems foreboding.

In that none of my favorites are left. Unless JLG wins, now it's a matter of hoping Labaki doesn't win.

Director --- Pawel Pawlikowski, Cold War

Where's the giant cane to get Benigni off the stage?

Godard wins some Lifetime Achievement Award or something. I'm sure he's bouncing around his room in Switzerland.

Go Kore-eda! I haven't seen a film of yours since Nobody Knows but I promise to watch Still Walking and Shoplifters.