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Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:06 pm
by matrixschmatrix
As I recall, there were a lot of complaints about Certified Copy's nearly barebones status, though that one was rectified by adding an entire second feature. I wish they'd gone that way for I Married a Ghost.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:08 pm
by Jeff
matrixschmatrix wrote:I wish they'd gone that way for I Married a Ghost.
By adding
The Witch Goes West, of course.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:10 pm
by matrixschmatrix
Look, it's really hot where I am, I can't be expected to keep track of all these supernatural beings
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:11 pm
by domino harvey
Frederic March casts a love spell on Robert Donat's ghost and because one's not alive it's not gay-- classic Hays code double standards
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:12 pm
by vsski
matrixschmatrix wrote:Look, it's really hot where I am, I can't be expected to keep track of all these supernatural beings
As long as you can party with Veronica Lake down there who can blame you.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:26 am
by albucat
Because of work, I receive their press emails and they had the original price points listed there, which leads me to believe that it wasn't just a web error but rather what they originally planned. It's kind of odd, actually, that they haven't sent an addendum email correcting things since then.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:06 am
by Lowry_Sam
vsski wrote:matrixschmatrix wrote:Look, it's really hot where I am, I can't be expected to keep track of all these supernatural beings
As long as you can party with Veronica Lake down there who can blame you.
Personally, I would have been more excited by a
Sullivan's Travels upgrade over IMAW (or any of the other October releases for that matter).
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:26 am
by knives
You're clearly no fun.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:03 am
by Lowry_Sam
knives wrote:You're clearly no fun.
Sullivan's Travels >
I Married A Witch = Party pooper? So be it.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:06 am
by knives
Putting them in competition is the act of party pooperism. It is possible to either enjoy both or not let your enjoyment of one be obnoxious to the other.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:05 am
by rrenault
Well perhaps sometimes certain films have higher licensing costs. For instance, I've always wondered why Le Doulos and Hiroshima Mon Amour had MSRPs of $39.99 even though they were single-disc DVD-only editions.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:31 am
by matrixschmatrix
Because they have commentaries. There are like two films in the collection that have commentaries that are at the $30 price point (before they started the split DVD/Blu pricing)
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:20 am
by ShellOilJunior
zedz wrote:That does suggest that this 'pricing malfunction' was actually a trial balloon that went down, to quote Keith Moon, like a lead zeppelin.
It went over about as well as the original announcement of
Everlasting Moments and
Close-up being DVD-only --- a day or two later it was announced both would get blu-ray releases.
(If I recall the blu-rays were announced the next day?)
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:59 pm
by rrenault
I noticed the North American DVD release of La Dolce Vita went OOP. Any chance Criterion would try to get their hands on that?
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:02 pm
by Ashirg
Paramount owns it now after
a litigation. They may want to recoup their losses on the suit.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:05 pm
by rrenault
Well Paramount does seem to be licensing quite a bit of stuff to Criterion, so who knows. There's no way Paramount's going to put out a deluxe edition of La Dolce Vita if they couldn't even do so for Rosemary's Baby.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:11 pm
by albucat
ShellOilJunior wrote:
It went over about as well as the original announcement of Everlasting Moments and Close-up being DVD-only --- a day or two later it was announced both would get blu-ray releases.
(If I recall the blu-rays were announced the next day?)
Actually, that was just an error. In the release they sent to press, both were blu-ray. I have them archived going back for a few years.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:24 pm
by Taketori Washizu
I'm sure this has been suggested on here before but...Dead of Night 1945? With the recent announcement of The Uninvited, I think Dead of Night would be a great candidate for a future October title. It would also be the last film on a list of horror films Scorsese put out a few years ago to get a Region 1 release. Criterion seems ideal. No one else would bother with it.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:31 pm
by ShellOilJunior
albucat wrote:ShellOilJunior wrote:
It went over about as well as the original announcement of Everlasting Moments and Close-up being DVD-only --- a day or two later it was announced both would get blu-ray releases.
(If I recall the blu-rays were announced the next day?)
Actually, that was just an error. In the release they sent to press, both were blu-ray. I have them archived going back for a few years.
I wasn't aware of that - thanks for that bit of info!
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:14 pm
by dwk
Pretty sure StudioCanal owns Dead of Night, so it is with Lionsgate.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:50 am
by Lowry_Sam
Safety Last is the spotlight film in this year's SF Silent Film festival. I think I'm going to check out
The Joyless Street, (150 min. 35 mm print from Filmmuseum Munich). I'd love to see Criterion wrest away
Diary Of A Lost Girl from Kino when/if it gets a restoration, but I'd settle for
The Joyless Street.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 1:50 am
by zedz
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:04 am
by Ashirg
They can do it high def...
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:35 am
by Tyler Michael
Inserting a slightly derailing post just because I think this is the only place to really ask about this, but are there any structural limits on Criterion preventing Blu releases of Do the Right Thing, Jeanne Dielman, or Man Bites Dog? The DVDs late at night at friends' houses introduced me to the collection and by extension to a lot of the "art cinema" I currently consume.
Also, definitely late to discussing this, but after Roger Ebert's death, I noticed that a lot of his regularly cited favorite films that weren't really big obvious money makers (see: Kane, et al) for their current DVD/Blu distributors were released by Criterion as DVDs and could make wonderful blu rays: Tokyo Story, Ikiru, and Hoop Dreams stood out for me.
As for a topical response, I know I have a lot of friends who would pick up La dolce vita in a heartbeat, myself included.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:00 pm
by Matt
Many of these questions are answered previously in this thread or elsewhere on the forum, but I understand it's a little hard to go back and find them through the constant flow of posts. Like taking a sip of water from a fire hose.
Hoop Dreams was shot in SD video, so there would be little to no visible improvement in an upgrade to BD.
All of the other titles you mentioned are still in print on DVD, so there are no rights issues preventing Criterion from upgrading them to BD, if that's what you mean by "structural limits." What limits Criterion from putting existing DVD masters on BD is that those masters are just not good enough for viewing in 1080p high definition.
Tokyo Story has just been released on BD in Japan, a new transfer from a 4K scan, so it follows that Criterion should be releasing an upgrade within the next couple of years (they don't seem to be in any hurry to upgrade their Ozu titles - only 1 so far in the BD era). Like that film, upgrades of some of the other titles you mention will depend on someone else besides Criterion doing a new 2K or 4K scan of the film, so it's out of their control.