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Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:59 am
by chatterjees
Another leaflet/insert! :(

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:10 am
by domino harvey
A fresh reminder of another highly eligible Worst Cover of the Year

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:29 pm
by rwiggum
domino harvey wrote:A fresh reminder of another highly eligible Worst Cover of the Year
I've actually come around on it a lot. I hated it at first, but it has its charms. And it's "badness" comes from a clear stylistic choice, and it can be appreciated in the context of that, whereas I still can't comprehend how the Bitter Tears of Petra Von Kant cover made it through even one round.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:49 pm
by cdnchris
chatterjees wrote:Another leaflet/insert! :(
I forgot to take a pic but it folds out similar to the one with La dolce vita

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 2:26 am
by chatterjees
cdnchris wrote:
chatterjees wrote:Another leaflet/insert! :(
I forgot to take a pic but it folds out similar to the one with La dolce vita
No worries, I figured that out from your pics anyhow. So, what's wrong with them now? Have they run out of writers, or the writers run out of ink and paper? ](*,)
I guess I will just have to take it as a compensation for having two books included in the packaging this year.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

Posted: Sun Nov 09, 2014 12:45 am
by cdnchris

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:24 am
by ordinaryperson
I picked up The Blob Blu-Ray at the B&N sale and the booklet for it was one of those leaflet things. Does anybody else have this? Is Criterion making all the booklets into leaflets?

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:42 am
by domino harvey
Hasn't it always been a fold-out poster?

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:46 am
by Charles
Leaflet. The DVD included a poster, the Blu-ray didn't. At least my copy didn't.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:40 am
by danieltiger
ordinaryperson wrote:I picked up The Blob Blu-Ray at the B&N sale and the booklet for it was one of those leaflet things. Does anybody else have this? Is Criterion making all the booklets into leaflets?
My copy of the Blu-Ray also has the leaflet.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 4:18 am
by swo17
cdnchris wrote:The Complete Jacques Tati

I'll mention that I don't think they made the Tati box wide enough. Everything is a little tight and the box can look like its bulging. If you take the booklet out the individual titles fit in the box far better.
I actually don't think it's the box that's too tight but the individual spines that are all just slightly too wide. It's like the box width was measured based on seven standard digis plus the booklet, but then the spine widths were each set at one-seventh of that available space, forgetting about the book. (The digis all feel uncomfortably non-flush along the spine ends when you straighten them out. And I can fit seven slim-digis from other Criterion sets plus the Tati booklet into this Tati box just fine.) This is going to bother me forever.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 3:11 pm
by aox
I bought the Tati box last night and had the same concerns. Beautiful set, but even when I flatten the spines, the box bulges.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 12:27 am
by Charles
swo17 wrote:
cdnchris wrote:The Complete Jacques Tati

I'll mention that I don't think they made the Tati box wide enough. Everything is a little tight and the box can look like its bulging. If you take the booklet out the individual titles fit in the box far better.
I actually don't think it's the box that's too tight but the individual spines that are all just slightly too wide. It's like the box width was measured based on seven standard digis plus the booklet, but then the spine widths were each set at one-seventh of that available space, forgetting about the book. (The digis all feel uncomfortably non-flush along the spine ends when you straighten them out. And I can fit seven slim-digis from other Criterion sets plus the Tati booklet into this Tati box just fine.) This is going to bother me forever.
From your description, it already bothers me forever and I haven't even seen it yet. (With luck I'll be picking out my copy tomorrow in-store.) I don't think we're being excessively OCD to ask why this has been such a challenge for Criterion lately. Why was the original Night of the Hunter package so loose you could fling the contents across the room? Why was Godzilla so tight it took delicate surgery to get the contents out? Why was IAMMMMW so un-squared/lopsided that most copies won't stand up by themselves? And now this -- when their previous digipack packaging over the years has been, in my experience, stunningly perfect.

I take great pride in the way my collection looks, in whole and part, and I treasure the deluxe editions of Criterion and others. I am sorry Criterion has lost their grip on this end of things.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:46 am
by rrenault
Charles wrote:
swo17 wrote:
cdnchris wrote:The Complete Jacques Tati

I'll mention that I don't think they made the Tati box wide enough. Everything is a little tight and the box can look like its bulging. If you take the booklet out the individual titles fit in the box far better.
I actually don't think it's the box that's too tight but the individual spines that are all just slightly too wide. It's like the box width was measured based on seven standard digis plus the booklet, but then the spine widths were each set at one-seventh of that available space, forgetting about the book. (The digis all feel uncomfortably non-flush along the spine ends when you straighten them out. And I can fit seven slim-digis from other Criterion sets plus the Tati booklet into this Tati box just fine.) This is going to bother me forever.
From your description, it already bothers me forever and I haven't even seen it yet. (With luck I'll be picking out my copy tomorrow in-store.) I don't think we're being excessively OCD to ask why this has been such a challenge for Criterion lately. Why was the original Night of the Hunter package so loose you could fling the contents across the room? Why was Godzilla so tight it took delicate surgery to get the contents out? Why was IAMMMMW so un-squared/lopsided that most copies won't stand up by themselves? And now this -- when their previous digipack packaging over the years has been, in my experience, stunningly perfect.

I take great pride in the way my collection looks, in whole and part, and I treasure the deluxe editions of Criterion and others. I am sorry Criterion has lost their grip on this end of things.
I'll also mention the case in the Rossellini-Bergman set specifically for Voyage to Italy where I'm afraid to try and remove the disc. That's how fragile the plastic tray, designed for two discs, is.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:38 pm
by DeprongMori
Has anyone contacted Criterion directly regarding the Tati packaging problem? It would be great to have this resolved in a second production run.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:46 pm
by swo17
For what it's worth, when I contacted them a while ago about Godzilla, their response was simply something like "yeah, those boxes are a little tight."

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:50 pm
by Gregory
Charles wrote:From your description, it already bothers me forever and I haven't even seen it yet. (With luck I'll be picking out my copy tomorrow in-store.) I don't think we're being excessively OCD to ask why this has been such a challenge for Criterion lately. Why was the original Night of the Hunter package so loose you could fling the contents across the room? Why was Godzilla so tight it took delicate surgery to get the contents out? Why was IAMMMMW so un-squared/lopsided that most copies won't stand up by themselves? And now this -- when their previous digipack packaging over the years has been, in my experience, stunningly perfect.
I'm not sure it's just become a problem for them lately. The worst error in that area was probably the Six Moral Tales in 2006. (As a forum we must never forget major events like that, naturally.) I have both the original outer box and the replacement box (I keep one inside the other) and a tape measure near my computer, and there's almost a 3/8 inch difference in width!
I'm not sure why this happens as often as it does, but I've seen it sometimes with boxed sets of books as well.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:15 pm
by rrenault
Gregory wrote:
Charles wrote:From your description, it already bothers me forever and I haven't even seen it yet. (With luck I'll be picking out my copy tomorrow in-store.) I don't think we're being excessively OCD to ask why this has been such a challenge for Criterion lately. Why was the original Night of the Hunter package so loose you could fling the contents across the room? Why was Godzilla so tight it took delicate surgery to get the contents out? Why was IAMMMMW so un-squared/lopsided that most copies won't stand up by themselves? And now this -- when their previous digipack packaging over the years has been, in my experience, stunningly perfect.
I'm not sure it's just become a problem for them lately. The worst error in that area was probably the Six Moral Tales in 2006. (As a forum we must never forget major events like that, naturally.) I have both the original outer box and the replacement box (I keep one inside the other) and a tape measure near my computer, and there's almost a 3/8 inch difference in width!
I'm not sure why this happens as often as it does, but I've seen it sometimes with boxed sets of books as well.
When did they fix the outer box for the Six Moral Tales, because I bought mine in late 2010, and my outer box has always seemed fine. I'm assuming it was only an issue with the first pressing.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:31 pm
by domino harvey
It was right after it came out

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:16 am
by Feiereisel
Did anyone else turn the corner on the La Dolce Vita cover art when they saw it in person? Viewing it online I had no strong opinion about it, but looking at it up-close I think it's lovely in a restrained, remote sort of way. It's striking but not ostentatious, like a crisp tuxedo.

Tangentially: I had a surprisingly hard time picking out My Darling Clementine when I couldn't find it in the general Criterion blu-ray selection. I finally saw it when I took a third glance at a high shelf of recently released Criterions, racked overlapping horizontally, from an angle where I could pick up the brownish-orange on the spine. The design is appealing enough, but the box's...sneakiness...perhaps doesn't speak well to the design of the package as a whole.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:00 am
by zedz
Gregory wrote:
Charles wrote:From your description, it already bothers me forever and I haven't even seen it yet. (With luck I'll be picking out my copy tomorrow in-store.) I don't think we're being excessively OCD to ask why this has been such a challenge for Criterion lately. Why was the original Night of the Hunter package so loose you could fling the contents across the room? Why was Godzilla so tight it took delicate surgery to get the contents out? Why was IAMMMMW so un-squared/lopsided that most copies won't stand up by themselves? And now this -- when their previous digipack packaging over the years has been, in my experience, stunningly perfect.
I'm not sure it's just become a problem for them lately. The worst error in that area was probably the Six Moral Tales in 2006. (As a forum we must never forget major events like that, naturally.) I have both the original outer box and the replacement box (I keep one inside the other) and a tape measure near my computer, and there's almost a 3/8 inch difference in width!
I'm not sure why this happens as often as it does, but I've seen it sometimes with boxed sets of books as well.
I have the same 'double-boxed' arrangement - because what else are you going to do with the wrong box? But let's not forget the grandfather of all box set packaging debacles: "jimmy crack corn". Nobody suspected at the time, but this was merely the thin end of the wedge.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:28 am
by stagefright50
swo17 wrote:
cdnchris wrote:The Complete Jacques Tati

I'll mention that I don't think they made the Tati box wide enough. Everything is a little tight and the box can look like its bulging. If you take the booklet out the individual titles fit in the box far better.
I actually don't think it's the box that's too tight but the individual spines that are all just slightly too wide. It's like the box width was measured based on seven standard digis plus the booklet, but then the spine widths were each set at one-seventh of that available space, forgetting about the book. (The digis all feel uncomfortably non-flush along the spine ends when you straighten them out. And I can fit seven slim-digis from other Criterion sets plus the Tati booklet into this Tati box just fine.) This is going to bother me forever.
This frightened me a bit to do this, but I've just carefully pinched my thumb and index and ran them along the spine of each digi. I didn't do any harm to the spines (was careful at the ends not too pinch hard), and now everything fits perfectly.

It's a shame that we would even have to think to do something like this. Hopefully future pressings will be corrected.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:38 pm
by swo17
Could you perhaps take some pictures of how your set and individual digis look now?

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:10 am
by swo17
So I was able to coax my overwide spines into a configuration that's reasonably pleasing to the eye and perhaps even a little Tatiesque, which I suppose I can live with (if you can even call this living)...

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Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol.

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:13 am
by domino harvey
I could understand Complete Humphrey Jennings next to Complete Jacques Tati but then the other Tati BFIs were on the other side and I just got upset