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Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:19 pm
by MyNameCriterionForum
Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:13 am
by jsteffe
oldsheperd wrote:Anyone re-examine what are good musical choices to accompany the films with no soundtrack? I haven't tried anything as of yet but I imagine some sort of white noise ala Cage, Stockhausen? perhaps a group like Can? I thought about Throbbing Gristle but I don't have D.O.A. or 2nd Annual Report just 20 Great Jazz Funk Whatever it is. I imagine a group like the Japanese band Ghost would work as well.
I think Metal Machine Music could work too but then I'd have to buy Metal Machine Music which doesn't make much sense to me.
I humbly suggest Nurse With Wound, especially earlier albums like "Soliloquy for Lilith" or "Spiral Insana."
Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:28 pm
by oldsheperd
I would try Nurse with Wound or Destroy All Monsters if they can be found for a decent price.
Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:51 am
by Noiretirc
Merzbow. The End.
(PS: MyNameCriterionForum, I love you.)
Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:34 am
by MyNameCriterionForum
Noiretirc wrote:Merzbow. The End.
(PS: MyNameCriterionForum, I love you.)
I love you too
Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:23 pm
by goner
How about the group Text of Light? Kind of Spacy and Kraut-y. Also named after a Brakhage film.
Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:05 pm
by mteller
I once tried to watch "23rd Psalm Branch" while listening to The Orb's Pomme Fritz album. It didn't really gel, that album is too mellow for that film. I think the films work better as silents anyway.
Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 4:35 pm
by oldsheperd
I was thinking maybe Chrome could work.
Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 10:24 pm
by MyNameCriterionForum
Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:39 am
by Noiretirc
goner wrote:How about the group Text of Light? Kind of Spacy and Kraut-y. Also named after a Brakhage film.
Yes! And Sonic Youth loves them too.
Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 1:42 pm
by oldsheperd
"Boat Woman Song" off of Canaxis by Holger Czukay
Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 5:48 am
by Adam
goner wrote:How about the group Text of Light? Kind of Spacy and Kraut-y. Also named after a Brakhage film.
And when they perform, it is live to Brakhage films.
Filmforum brought them to Los Angeles. I thought their music was great, and the films were great, but the music overpowered/didn't work well enough with the films.
I think silent Brakhage films should be played without sound. It was a nice experiment with Text of Light, and also one that showed why the films work better with no soundtrack.
Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:19 am
by knives
Am I being pedantic for becoming annoyed at first that the blu actually does split Vol 1&2.
Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:24 am
by Adam
knives wrote:Am I being pedantic for becoming annoyed at first that the blu actually does split Vol 1&2.
Yes.

Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 1:52 am
by knives
I should mention though that the two films in the set I've watched are fascinating and I don't think I'll have the repetition problems I did with the Keen set here. Things are going a lot slower.
Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:04 pm
by med
knives wrote:Am I being pedantic for becoming annoyed at first that the blu actually does split Vol 1&2.
Two things:
1) I don't think "pedantic" is the word you want here.
2) Are you really complaining that nearly 12 hours worth of material is spread across two discs instead of crammed into one?
Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 5:18 pm
by knives
That's not what I was complaining about. They have two separate digis for vol. 1 and vol. 2. I don't see why they couldn't have put it all on one extra fold digi. Movies are great though. Dog Star Man felt like it was running in reverse.
Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:34 pm
by aox
So, with the B&N sale, I have started looking at this set. But, a quick question: on the BD discs, do they feature a "play-all" function between all of the short films so they will essentially stream? Kind of like TV episode discs.
Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 1:49 pm
by CSM126
Yes, although the stream will be interrupted for a "graphic content" warning before The Act of Seeing... I believe you have to click to acknowledge it (and then the stream keeps going).
Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:45 pm
by Tom Hagen
Yes, there is a play all function. On volume 2, there is also a cool option to view designated groups of shorts as a manageable "program."
Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:18 pm
by aox
sweet deal.
I think I might blind buy this after work. I have no idea what to expect.
Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:22 pm
by SternDiet
aox wrote:I have no idea what to expect.
Something that may change your life forever.
Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:25 pm
by aox
To be honest, I am feeling uninspired in my own short film-making. Looking for some inspiration.

Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:15 pm
by knives
His films are somewhere between Kenneth Anger and Jeff Keen if that makes sense to you. It's a lot of slow edited abstracts that manage to tell oddly personal stories. I'm sure youtube has a few (if not the best) if you want to test them out. It's a very worthwhile purchase.
Re: 184 & 517/518 by Brakhage: an anthology (Volumes 1 and 2
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:52 pm
by SternDiet
knives wrote:His films are somewhere between Kenneth Anger and Jeff Keen if that makes sense to you. It's a lot of slow edited abstracts that manage to tell oddly personal stories. I'm sure youtube has a few (if not the best) if you want to test them out. It's a very worthwhile purchase.
Slow edited? You must be joking!