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Rich Malloy wrote:Maybe it was the slaughter of the pigs

Or the killing of the cat. Or the killing of the child. Or the fact that people confuse movies with reality too much.

In case my grip on reality is being questioned, I maintain my belief that the cat wasn't actually killed. And I'm fairly certain the kid wasn't either. The pigs on the other hand...

Rich Malloy wrote:Hollywood hate wang.

Bernardo Bertolucci wrote:When I finished the movie I said I couldn't cut one frame. But later I saw that the movie could be cut. Instead of a castration, I arrived at an artistic work. What we have now is the film I want ... I didn't remove any sequences. I cut short pieces of film. The difference is only in the rhythm. The meaning, the strength, is absolutely the same ... I didn't want to cut [shots of] the two men naked.

Or the killing of the cat. Or the killing of the child. Or the fact that people confuse movies with reality too much.

I think movies barely ghasps reality on the other hand. Art imitates life...

I heard the kid actually WAS killed. Sutherland insisted, and Hollywood types always get their way.

Bertolucci knew that Sutherland really had to kill the kid and the cat if we were to understand his overwhelming awfulness. Naming his character "Attila" was just too damn subtle.

Storaro's work on The Fifth Cord impresses me to a far greater degree. Seriously, folks, rent The Fifth Cord - the visuals will blow your mind!

No need to worry, according to the same dvdtalk thread, the title is back in print.

So, 1900 is not going out of print then? For sure???

Well if it happens to, Fox UK is going to release it with the same supplements next month. Can pick up that one instead.

But it doesnt seem like this will go out of print just yet.

Conformist is part of the $6 Paramount sale at DDD by the way

SHOCKMASTER wrote:So, 1900 is not going out of print then? For sure???

Well, according to the dvdtalk thread above, it won't. It still widely available online.

are they planning on rereleasing it with cuts?

jon wrote:are they planning on rereleasing it with cuts?

As I understand it, the website that originally reported it OOP got the code confused with another title that really is going OOP, although some have suggested more nefarious reasons (such as falsely claiming OOP status to take advantage of a spike in prices on the secondary market).

Does anyone know what this might be?

Dadapass wrote:Does anyone know what this might be?

A crazy bargain. Haven't Paramount been doing blow-outs lately, ie. reducing the price of their catalogue titles en masse?

I still remember a certain notorious MoC-related thread when someone cited the $10 RRP of The Conformist as justification for his claim that MoC, Criterion etc. were ripping people off - so heaven knows what message this is sending out!

Person wrote:

Dadapass wrote:Does anyone know what this might be?

A crazy bargain. Haven't Paramount been doing blow-outs lately, ie. reducing the price of their catalogue titles en masse?

Both Amazon and DVDPacific have this cheap forthcoming release listed alongside the former 2-disc 'Special Collector's Edition' at the old price, so this might be something different (shorter US cut?).

DVDBeaver's listed a bunch of Paramount titles posted with extreme low list prices on their front page

The Conformist is OOP according to DVDPacific.

Le Samouraï wrote:The Conformist is OOP according to DVDPacific.

That's quite surprising. Paramount are making some weird decisions over the past year.

I recently e-mailed Paramount regarding The Conformist:

I am e-mailing you to inquirer about the current status of The
Conformist by Bernardo Bertolucci DVD. According to several retailers
this DVD has gone out of print. I wanted to confirm whether these
sources were correct, or whether this DVD is still in print. If this
DVD has gone out of print, will Paramount be releasing it in an
updated/restored version, or is it that Paramount has simply lost the
rights to this film.

Paramount was nice enough to e-mail me back:

This title has been put on Moratorium. I do not know if or when it will
once again be available.
Customer Service

I thought this was interesting, and really doesn't clear up whether this title is out of print or just delayed for some reason. On a good note, if it is out of print, I pray that Criterion picks it up, even though the Paramount disc was quite impressive.

They (Conformist and 1900) were discontinued in the fall.

Paramount also discontinued a bunch of other goodies including Harold and Maude, Rosemary's Baby, Don't Look Now, Hud, Atlantic City, Pretty Baby, Serpico, Ragtime, American Gigolo, Marathon Man, Miracle of Morgan's Creek. Amazon has some still in stock, others are starting to get expensive on the secondary market.

Hopefully Criterion swoops in and grabs all the good titles.

I wish it's because they are considering releasing them on Blu. :-k

It would be a dream to see both on Criterion.

Or, maybe StudioCanal picked them up and gave them to Lionsgate, just to spite Criterion...