Re: 437 Vampyr
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:03 pm
VAMPYR is the type of film that grows on you...a masterpiece!
You really shouldn't browse the internet while hammering in nails.hearthesilence wrote:" ****! "
Well it is a genre film after all. I'm curious--can anyone think of any horror films that are more conventionally Dreyer-esque than this one turned out to be?matrixschmatrix wrote:it's weirdly different from the other Dreyer films I love
That's a good point. When people talk about Dreyer's style, they generally mean the style of the last three films. So they should really be talking about Dreyer's late style. Stuff like Passion and Vampyr don't really resemble those later films; they're aggressive on a formal level: visually energetic and avant garde. (Note I love Gertrude more than any other Dreyer film I've seen).warren oates wrote:I don't know -- Bergman's The Magician? Of course, I'm not sure I buy that there's anything Dreyer-esque. The Passion of Joan of Arc isn't like any other film of his or anyone else's. Neither is this one. His last three are more like one another than any of this earlier mature work, but still very much their own singular experiences.
My print was mute, so lacked the voice-over narration (perhaps a blessing) or any sound, returning Vampyr to the silent mode in which it was shot (though not of course presented). Another anomaly was that, since my projector did not have a 24fps option, I had to view it closer to the lower frame rate at which it was evidently shot. Viewing the standard sound prints, I think it's quite obvious that the projection speed generally is faster than the camera speed (just as for many late silents released with a synchronised track) and that has a striking aesthetic effect, making the frequent camera movements glide all the more smoothly, for example. But, in the 1970s, I was seeing the film more slowly than intended, the matching of camera and projection speeds giving it an unsuitably naturalistic quality.William K Everson wrote:For the United States release, and to cash in on the horror market, it was cut down drastically, re-shaped, fitted out with a lurid voice-over narration, and retitled Castle of Doom... it received sparse distribution, and was seen by few people.
I'm not sure which part(s) are taken from the original English version, however. I'm fairly confident the lengthy texts from the vampire book were remade decades later as they share the same propensity to typographical errors we see in the other anglicised elements. Possibly from Dreyer's English-language original is the wording on the wrapping of the book, "To be opened after my death" and, even more likely, the inscription on the coffin, "Dust thou wast - to dust shalt thou return" which miraculously changes to German on its next appearance in this version.Martin Koerber wrote:Nothing seems to remain of the English version, except for the part of it that was used in the compilation of all versions that Raymond Rohauer distributed as Vampyr...
Two really interesting points here. As I'm about to argue, the confusion of the boundaries between heroes and villains in Vampyr might help to address your first comment, although as has also been pointed out in this thread, it is important to remember that Dreyer is adhering to certain genre conventions here. Your point about communities in Dreyer's films is a very astute one, and I think on the whole it relates to his interest in the upsetting or subverting of entrenched, received ideas. Again, as I'll touch on below, I think that Vampyr is treating this idea in a more oblique way by making its hero a demonologist and putting him (and itself, as a film) in the thrall of archaic ideas, voices and forces from the past making themselves felt in the present - a common theme of Gothic texts, but one which resonates in Dreyer's work in various ways.Drucker wrote:One thing I feel like is missing in this film (someone correct me if I'm wrong) is a real aspect of redemption for someone that has wronged. In Bride of Glomdal, Day Of Wrath, and Mikael, some spirit or human forgives the person who had antagonized to some degree. Unlike Passion of Joan of Arc, though, we really see antagonists punished in a direct way here, that again, I can't remember in any other Dreyer film. Another thing that sticks out is that our cast of characters seems small and isolated. Gertrud, Passion, Day Of Wrath, and many other films feature whole communities, often which have laws which govern the actions of the characters...and those laws are often broken in some way which sets off the central conflict of the film.
One interesting feature of Vampyr’s screenplay is its extremely detailed approach to describing each setting, the objects to be found in a room, its atmosphere, its degree of cleanliness, etc.. This isn’t surprising coming from Dreyer, and the above quotation could easily describe his approach in any of his other films. Think of the ‘everyday things’ by which his sets are so meticulously populated, and the way in which they accumulate various kinds of meaning and emotional resonance: the pictures on the walls in The President and Ordet, which come to stand for the weight of previous generations, the dead still intruding upon the world of the living in the form of deathbed promises and rigid orthodoxies; the artworks strewn about the Master’s house in Michael, at first seeming to represent a fertile, liberated creative environment, but coming to resemble relics in a mausoleum, testifying to Zoret’s alienation from the rest of humanity as he crawls towards death; the comfortable bourgeois ‘stuff’ in Gertrud which, we gradually realise, constitutes a kind of prison for her, a world of insubstantial distractions from which she ultimately escapes into that spare, unearthly apartment in the final scene; the forest idyll in Day of Wrath that suddenly turns chilling when Anne and Martin realise that firewood is being gathered for the pyre that will burn Herlof's Marte; the magnificent, expensive sets of Joan of Arc, which Dreyer does not allow us to see and which therefore take on the same degree of dull insignificance which Joan herself ascribes to them, so that as Dreyer puts it, ‘things become what we perceive them to be’, in this case ceasing to exist when we fail to perceive them; and of course the home of Viktor and Ida in Master of the House, in which every object is inflected with the husband’s abuse in the first act, but is then gradually carried over into the re-made context of the happy home towards the end.Carl Dreyer wrote:Imagine that we are sitting in an ordinary room. Suddenly we realise that a dead body is standing behind the door. In that same moment, the room in which we sit begins to change, and each everyday thing in it looks different, the light and the atmosphere have changed, and things become what we perceive them to be. This is the effect I want to produce in my film.
Yes, dramatically speaking this section is dead in the water, and can be a chore to sit through if you’re not in the mood. It made a lot more sense to me when I finally saw a decent edition (the MoC version), and was able to see the inserts of the Vampire-book as Dreyer intended them to be seen. Not only did he make this book himself and subject it to wonderfully detailed, authentic ‘ageing’ processes, he apparently spent two whole days filming its pages, blowing on the candles next to the camera to create the flickering light (this is according to Casper Tybjerg’s visual essay). He also vehemently objected to the proposal that these shots be presented as standard intertitles on the Danish version, arguing that the book was itself a ‘performer’ in the film, an actor just as significant as (and, it must be said, considerably more expressive than) the main players in the drama.Mr Sausage wrote:Vampyr's weakness is its second act. The stuff in the house, tho' full of striking camera movements, tends to drag. The two acts on either side have an open quality, drifting among locations and encountering bizarre sights at random (Allan Gray's walk after that first night may as well have been a conveyor belt tour just for the sheer contrast between things discovered and the lack of direction leading to them). The acts bookending the film are phantasmagorias whose events seem limited only by the filmmakers' imaginations. Yet that second act is locked into a single location with a set number of people with the action proscribed by the genre. My attention flags during this section. There are few surprises; we're just waiting for others to discover what we already know.I continue to love how ineffectual a demonologist our friend Gray turns out to be. He's the most passive hero I've ever seen in a vampire film. He stumbles onto most of his discoveries (usually without knowing their import), spends much of the second act in a stupour and the third in a dream(?), fails to put the pieces of the mystery together despite the book on vampires being left in his care, and really only helps the caretaker dispatch the villains. And even his heroic actions come at the direction of others (being told to run after the wandering Leone; being told about the poison trap) or are ineffectual (trying to save the master of the house from death). Despite being the one immersed in demonic lore, he seems adrift in a world whose rules he can't comprehend or alter.
As someone who likes poring through old books, even ones in languages I don't know, in order to enjoy a similar atmosphere of the archaic and esoteric, I appreciate those book excerpts, tho' I can't say I ever felt dislocated or pulled into an a-termporal dream-state by them (interesting point, tho'). I'm glad you pointed out that the book was originally conceived as a diary, because it does get absurdly specific at times, to the point of identifying the specific vampire haunting the specific region the characters inhabit. It actually makes the crucial element of these kinds of scenes--deduction--irrelevant since it spells out the necessary connections.sloper wrote:Seen in this light, as fragments of a delirious dream-fantasy rather than as a clumsy narrative device, the seemingly endless shots of the vampire book do become more absorbing. It helps if you embrace their soporific effect and lose track of time; it helps even more if you turn the subtitles off and just take in the images, the slow camera movements, the subtle lighting effects, the blackened spots on the book. We don’t really need to know what the words say, beyond understanding that they tell the characters what they need (and want) to hear. But we do need to know what the book stands for: a voice from the past, archaic lore demanding to be applied to the present, morbidly fixated on liminal states, death and damnation, and itself existing in a liminal state, at once a possession of the murdered father, a volume from Allan’s library, and an object that seems to compel the attention of the manservant by an almost supernatural force, slowly drawing his gaze towards itself, arresting his attention with the first line, ‘As soon as the Vampire feels his victim is completely under his control...’, drawing this rather clichéd ‘down-to-earth’ subordinate into the web of demonological intrigue and fantasy
It's a shame Dreyer didn't think to have him strip down to his underwear first, like a proper horror movie.Mr Sausage wrote:Also, is Vampyr the first example of a character hearing a creak or other noise coming from some part of a strange house and going to investigate?