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Just playing Devil's advocate here: if you're truly OCD, wouldn't the introduction of separate numbering systems mean that you'd have to double-dip pointlessly on all the titles that come out on both formats? i.e. to remain safely complete in parallel you'd need to buy both BD Spine #1 Bottle Rocket and DVD Spine #450 Bottle Rocket. In which case, I would have thought that Criterion's solution would have been a relief for the afflicted. But maybe I don't understand how all this really works!

No - a truly OCD person would naturally dismiss DVD altogether. Inferior format.

peerpee wrote:No - a truly OCD person would naturally dismiss DVD altogether. Inferior format.

You say that now, Nick, but there's always tomorrow.

*in the case of there being an alternative* !! -- as in the example I was referring to! arrrgh

wait, would a non-OCD person argue that DVD is a superior format to Blu-Ray? We just call them 'stupid' where I am from.

peerpee wrote:No - a truly OCD person would naturally dismiss DVD altogether. Inferior format.

Only if that person's OCD gave them a predilection for format superiority.

PEOPLE WITH OCD EXIST, PLEASE DO NOT MAKE LIGHT.

YOU PROJECTED THE LIGHT

peerpee wrote:It's also good to hear support for the Blu-ray move. The last ten or so complaints about it, have been from people who think this is some new-fangled VHS vs Betamax con, and they go on to admit to not having even seen a Blu-ray.

I don't know who made the last ten complaints, but I think it's not quite a fair way of summarizing the opinions of those who are not entirely happy about the blu-ray move, at least as far as this thread is concerned. But perhaps you have other people in mind.

zedz wrote:Just playing Devil's advocate here: if you're truly OCD, wouldn't the introduction of separate numbering systems mean that you'd have to double-dip pointlessly on all the titles that come out on both formats? i.e. to remain safely complete in parallel you'd need to buy both BD Spine #1 Bottle Rocket and DVD Spine #450 Bottle Rocket. In which case, I would have thought that Criterion's solution would have been a relief for the afflicted. But maybe I don't understand how all this really works!

Truly OCD, I am not. I sure feel like it with my movie/music collection. I have thought about that and what would happen when I get to the point where I've caught up on all the back catalogue of Criterion DVDs (I have around 300 spine #s) and my DVD collection is only missing the one's I've bought on BD, but either way they're going to be missing. I don't know if Criterion thought that people would just be sliding their BDs into their shelf in the row of DVDs or what, but I don't know anyone who doesn't keep the two formats separate.

Either choice has its pitfalls for collectors, but I guess I just think that, unless my level of disposable income doubles at some point, I'll never catch up on their DVDs, so it would've been nice to have a complete set of BDs (which I will have from MoC). Plus, I really can't be bothered with DVD much anymore. I have a very high end DVD player, but I'm just disappointed every time I put one on now. Blu-ray has spoiled it for me

Tommaso wrote:

peerpee wrote:It's also good to hear support for the Blu-ray move. The last ten or so complaints about it, have been from people who think this is some new-fangled VHS vs Betamax con, and they go on to admit to not having even seen a Blu-ray.

I don't know who made the last ten complaints, but I think it's not quite a fair way of summarizing the opinions of those who are not entirely happy about the blu-ray move, at least as far as this thread is concerned. But perhaps you have other people in mind.

As far as I'm concerned, I think "City Girl" should have been released in both formats, given the total lack of availability on any format in region 2 world and the limited availability in North America in the very pricey Murnau/Borzage set. It's a pretty important movie and I think it's sad that people who haven't made the move to Blu yet don't get to own and enjoy it.

I mix DVDs and blu-rays regarding Criterion, with MoC i don't have too. If you don't like your DVD cases, you can replace them all with the Scanbox ones.

Der Spieler wrote:As far as I'm concerned, I think "City Girl" should have been released in both formats, given the total lack of availability on any format in region 2 world and the limited availability in North America in the very pricey Murnau/Borzage set. It's a pretty important movie and I think it's sad that people who haven't made the move to Blu yet don't get to own and enjoy it.

I wasn't aware MoC existed as a public service provider.

merch wrote:Truly OCD, I am not. I sure feel like it with my movie/music collection. I have thought about that and what would happen when I get to the point where I've caught up on all the back catalogue of Criterion DVDs (I have around 300 spine #s) and my DVD collection is only missing the one's I've bought on BD, but either way they're going to be missing. I don't know if Criterion thought that people would just be sliding their BDs into their shelf in the row of DVDs or what, but I don't know anyone who doesn't keep the two formats separate.

I think I get it now. If you're keeping your DVDs and BluRays stored separately (which I guess is the OCD thing to do) that 'complete' Criterion BluRay collection of yours with spine numbers all over the place must be driving you nuts! Mine are all jumbled up together (but in numerical order - which I thought made me a little OCD).

Excuse my ignorance but what does OCD stand for?

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. The condition everyone thinks they have and very few of them actually do.

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I admit I didn't know it either.

Obsessively Categorizing DVDs

Ok thanks!

swo17 wrote:Obsessively Categorizing DVDs

Now that I do have

CSM126 wrote:Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. The condition everyone thinks they have and very few of them actually do.

Actually having OCD is not that common, sure, but having obsessive and/or compulsive tendencies is a whole other thing (which I have in spades).

CSM126 wrote:Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. The condition everyone thinks they have and very few of them actually do.

Often confused with anal-retentitveness. An example is the guy over on the Blu-ray.com Forum arguing that the Studio Canal Collection can't be a collection because there are no spine numbers. :-k

That's something I always found annoying with the BFI, too. God Bless Second Run and Filmmuseum!

Tommaso wrote:That's something I always found annoying with the BFI, too.

Actually, quite a few BFI releases have spine numbers - the Flipside sub-brand and the British Transport Films collections spring to mind.

But who on earth is going to collect the BFI's entire output on a systematic basis? The range is much wider and conspicuously more esoteric than the Criterion, MoC or Second Run catalogues.

Tommaso wrote:That's something I always found annoying with the BFI, too. God Bless Second Run and Filmmuseum!

Spine numbers? Seriously? My wife has accused me on more than one occasion of being "obsessive" concerning how things are shelved or filed but even I don't go that far. Of course, that may be because I've settled on a system for my BDs/DVDs where everything is filed alphabetically by director with appropriate dividers on the shelves (all properly labeled) and cross-referenced to my DVDPedia data base (and my iPod Touch app). I'd never be so obsessive as to insist on spine numbers, thought. :-"

MichaelB wrote:
But who on earth is going to collect the BFI's entire output on a systematic basis? The range is much wider and conspicuously more esoteric than the Criterion, MoC or Second Run catalogues.

I'm not collecting all the BFI's output for sure, and was more theoretically speaking (and not quite in earnest, too). Spine numbers are only helpful if you want to roughly determine when in the company's history a particular disc came out. For instance, you'd better check at the Beaver for the image quality for any CC film before, say, spine #200. After that, you can't go seriously wrong. With the BFI you'd have to know whether a disc came out before 2006 or so, that year being the watershed when the label suddenly started to become top-notch.

MichaelB wrote:But who on earth is going to collect the BFI's entire output on a systematic basis? The range is much wider and conspicuously more esoteric than the Criterion, MoC or Second Run catalogues.

Um, yeah, that'd be me Michael - ever since 'Seven Samurai' came out how ever many moons ago... :-"