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Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:26 pm
by matrixschmatrix
If they're looking specifcally for sound era Chaplin, it's about as well known as anything but The Great Dictator, seeing as how it's basically that, Limelight, and A King in New York.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:34 pm
by movielocke
well that's tremendously disappointing. how many more years must we wait for City Lights?

Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:39 pm
by criterion10
Not to nitpick, but is it just me or does it seem as if Criterion is really taking there time with the Chaplins? Considering the first one we got was Modern Times back in November 2010, I would've thought Big C would've made it through almost all of them by now. Is this just me, or am I underestimating the amount of restoration these films needed?
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:42 am
by Mr Sausage
Like Jeff, this is my second favourite Chaplin, so I'm pretty excited. I haven't bought any of the other Chaplins, but I'll definitely go out of my way to double-dip this one.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:44 am
by JonasEB
criterion10 wrote:Not to nitpick, but is it just me or does it seem as if Criterion is really taking there time with the Chaplins? Considering the first one we got was Modern Times back in November 2010, I would've thought Big C would've made it through almost all of them by now. Is this just me, or am I underestimating the amount of restoration these films needed?
Most of them are already available in Europe and many of them are fairly mediocre looking, not necessarily due to the condition of the films but the qualities of the decade old masters. Criterion released the two that were obviously stellar (Modern Times, Great Dictator) and have started rolling out the more problematic titles, like The Gold Rush - the Criterion is the only edition with the original 1925 film in HD (which looks better than the 1942.) Similarly, The Kid is only available in its re-edited form overseas; the Criterion will almost certainly have the reconstructed original version. The First National shorts that make up the outdated Chaplin Revue may get new restorations/transfers, they need them.
It's going to take a bit longer to get these out but, as The Gold Rush shows, it should be worth it.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:59 am
by matrixschmatrix
Yeah, I'm impatient too, but I'll happily take a three year wait if that's what it takes to get releases as good as The Gold Rush. Plus, hopefully they'll stick to the incredibly stacked sets of extras, too.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:23 am
by Jeff
JonasEB wrote:The Kid is only available in its re-edited form overseas; the Criterion will almost certainly have the reconstructed original version.
Yeah, it was one of the restorations they were working on with Cineteca di Bologna and the Chaplin estate, as seen in this infamous photo of
Fumiko Takagi fondling the negative.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:03 pm
by zedz
criterion10 wrote:Not to nitpick, but is it just me or does it seem as if Criterion is really taking there time with the Chaplins? Considering the first one we got was Modern Times back in November 2010, I would've thought Big C would've made it through almost all of them by now. Is this just me, or am I underestimating the amount of restoration these films needed?
Why on earth would Criterion shoot their load, create competition for themselves and minimise sales when dripfeeding the Chaplins will give them a steady revenue stream for years? Most of these films are a license to print money, and will be subsidising riskier titles. That's not a resource you squander.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:14 am
by peerpee
They also pretty much all needed doing again from scratch. Park Circus and other European labels just issued what MK2 gave them (which, in most cases, wasn't really good enough for Blu-ray). MoC really dodged multiple bullets on these.
Criterion are handling the Chaplins exactly as the Universal Hitchcocks needed dealing with = one by one, properly.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:39 pm
by eerik
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:41 pm
by Cold Bishop
Medium Cool!
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:43 pm
by med
That Haskell Wexler/Henry Winkler pun is something else.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:44 pm
by rwaits
Excellent news!!
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:45 pm
by dx23
The Complete Henry Winkler Collection!
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:45 pm
by kneelzod
I wonder if all of the original music will be restored.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:49 pm
by bamwc2
Cold Bishop wrote:Medium Cool!
I hope that's right. What a fantastic movie! I have to admit to not getting it since I was thrown off by the "Wacky-Ayyyy" name.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:52 pm
by ptatler
Also exciting is the possibility of a CC edition of the restored TESS. It's another interesting mess along the lines of HEAVEN'S GATE but, in my view, much better.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:52 pm
by carax09
For a second there, I convinced myself it was Les Bas-fonds, or "Fonz", as the case may be.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:01 pm
by ryannichols7
very awesome to see two cinema vérité style movies in 2013 so far on the slate. Medium Cool is fantastic. hope they got Wexler (who's 90!) for some features.
also, more Paramount...maybe we really will get Nashville and Don't Look Now!
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:07 am
by Grand Wazoo
Yes! One of the few newsletter clues I've guessed on my own. I've been hoping for this one for a long time having missed out on the dvd before it evaporated. Here's hoping for some kind of Frank Zappa related extra.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:11 am
by HistoryProf
Wow...I figured this was only a pipedream. I can quit regretting selling off my old Paramount disc for only $50. I imagine those will drop back to $7 a pop within weeks of this coming out. better list them now!
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:40 am
by oldsheperd
I totally regret selling my copy of Medium Cool when it was still in print.
I believe it had a commentary by Wexler so they might just transfer it.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:28 am
by kneelzod
oldsheperd wrote:I totally regret selling my copy of Medium Cool when it was still in print.
I believe it had a commentary by Wexler so they might just transfer it.
I may wait to hear what is, or isn't, being ported over from the Paramount DVD before selling it.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:30 am
by swo17
kneelzod wrote:I may wait to hear what is, or isn't, being ported over from the Paramount DVD before selling it.
Yeah, I'm waiting to see if one of Criterion's extras will be a crisp $100 bill.
Re: Criterion Newsletter (Part 2)
Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 1:42 am
by ianungstad
This will probably be a 2 disc bluray. The making of documentary apparently clocks in at 4 hours:
http://www.thestickingplace.com/film/fi ... roduction/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
“Look out Haskell, it’s real!” details the production of Haskell Wexler‘s 1969 feature Medium Cool. It features interviews with members of the film’s cast and crew alongside critics and commentators, and includes never-before-seen outtakes of Medium Cool from the UCLA Film and Television Archive. A 55-minute version of the documentary premiered at the 2001 Edinburgh Film Festival alongside a new theatrical print of Medium Cool and with Wexler in attendance. It has been screened at many archives and festivals worldwide, and has been seen on the BBC, PBS and the Sundance Channel. The film was expanded and re-edited in 2013, and now runs four hours.
If this documentary is included on the Criterion release, they may end up pulling a Bergman Island and use the 55 minute cut to keep it down to one disc.