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Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 5:29 pm
by knives
Firstly stop being such a condescending jerk. Is it so hard for you to understand why someone might not like R&H? Is such a difference of opinion such a large sign of stupidity to you? Secondly I appreciate musical theater plenty whether it be pre or post war. Admittedly i prefer the stuff from a couple of decades down the road (particularly Sondheim who is superior to his mentor), but I'm not the buffoon you're making me out to be. This is the wrong place to be talking about this though so I'll only reply back if you post in the musical thread.
edit: What Swo said too. The guy's a total savant on the subject.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:16 pm
by mckeldinb
I genuinely apologize for being condescending. I had no business barging in on a community (via a somewhat off-topic subject no less) and making proclamations about who or or who isn't informed about any genre. My only defense is that when one lurks in a forum (or listserv or what have you), you tend to forget that the community that you've familiarized yourself with, is unfamiliar with you; but you were right to call me on it.
(Still like
The King and I though

)
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:29 pm
by mfunk9786
Where are the announcements?!
When are they going to get to the fireworks factory?!
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:22 pm
by htshell
Very great news about a Hollis Frampton set. Criterion needs more avant garde, especially since the Brakhage set was done so well. And while not "avant garde" per se, the Painleve set was a really nice collection of films out of their typical feature-focused wheelhouse, so I appreciate that set as well.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:27 pm
by swo17
Someone on Facebook says Frenzy is being announced, but Criterion's site is still down for me.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:29 pm
by knives
They're updating it now so the posts should be ready in about twenty if the ever reliable screwups with their site is right.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:30 pm
by Calvin
The site is working fine for me and nothing has been announced yet as far as I can see.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:36 pm
by domino harvey
swo17 wrote:Someone on Facebook says Frenzy is being announced, but Criterion's site is still down for me.
Holy shit, if that's true, I can't believe Criterion didn't tease it!
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:37 pm
by knives
Is Frenzy considered good? I haven't seen it, but I always had the impression that it was considered middling.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:40 pm
by domino harvey
knives wrote:Is Frenzy considered good? I haven't seen it, but I always had the impression that it was considered middling.
It's essential Hitchcock, generally regarded as such too. And, just to keep up my cliched image, it and
Family Plot influenced admitted Hitch fanatic Claude Chabrol's later masterpieces
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:41 pm
by mfunk9786
Oh my goodness... that would be incredible. It's one of Hitchcock's underappreciated gems. If they could get I Confess from WB, I'd be in heaven.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:42 pm
by bringmesomechemicals
I enjoy Frenzy quite a bit, but it does seem to elicit mixed reactions. At the very least, it has one of Hitchcock's best camera moves.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:43 pm
by NABOB OF NOWHERE
knives wrote:Is Frenzy considered good? I haven't seen it, but I always had the impression that it was considered middling.
It's Hitch at his most sordid....Luvverly Luvverly. Also interesting for being set in the old Covent Garden Market before it was pedestrianised and the boutiques and mime artists moved in.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:44 pm
by knives
domino harvey wrote:knives wrote:Is Frenzy considered good? I haven't seen it, but I always had the impression that it was considered middling.
It's essential Hitchcock, generally regarded as such too. And, just to keep up my cliched image, it and
Family Plot influenced admitted Hitch fanatic Claude Chabrol's later masterpieces
Oh, so I'll like it then. Even if they don't announce it I know what I'll be renting next week.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:46 pm
by cdnchris
mfunk9786 wrote:Oh my goodness... that would be incredible. It's one of Hitchcock's underappreciated gems. If they could get I Confess from WB, I'd be in heaven.
Isn't
I Confess in the same predicament as
Stagecoach and
Foreign Correspondent where WB didn't renew the rights? I'd be happy to get a solid Blu-ray for that one as well.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:47 pm
by mfunk9786
Please don't tease me.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:48 pm
by knives
There was a rumour of that because of a Ebert show mix up, but it's 100% WBs.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:50 pm
by domino harvey
We know they have Foreign Correspondent, which makes this out of nowhere leapfrog particularly surprising if true
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:51 pm
by cdnchris
knives wrote:There was a rumour of that because of a Ebert show mix up, but it's 100% WBs.
Dammit! Sorry mfunk.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:51 pm
by domino harvey
Yeah, I Confess just went into one of those 4 Movie Favorites collections too
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:58 pm
by jedgeco
knives wrote:Is Frenzy considered good? I haven't seen it, but I always had the impression that it was considered middling.
I wasn't too impressed with it when I watched back in college, but I only saw it once and don't remember much about it. It's probably the most successful of the post-Marnie Hitchcocks, although I definitely got the feeling that he was letting his id run wild with the end of the Production Code.
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:01 pm
by Hail_Cesar
"5 minutes..." according to criterion...
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:05 pm
by swo17
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:07 pm
by domino harvey
I don't understand. Criterion sat on these for fucking years only to make it an Eclipse set with no extras? What did they do with Gorin's contributions?
Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:09 pm
by Jean-Luc Garbo
Fuck yeah David Kalat: he's on commentary for Godzilla!
Also, a very interesting Belle du jour extra: Susie Bright and Linda Williams. I'm glad they have Michael Wood doing a commentary because his book on the same was invaluable for me.