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Re: 539 House
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:51 pm
by zombeaner
Jeff wrote:marnum wrote:Sorry for the repetition, but the announced aspect ratio can't be right. Should be 1.55:1.
MoC's transfer is 1.55 because that is what was on the ten year old master that Toho supplied them with. They weren't sure why Toho did that, but it looks fine. Janus did their own new high-def master of the original elements (which are 1.37, of course) and elected not to mask it at all. Their 1.37 print is what played recently in U.S. theaters, and that is what will be on the Criterion Blu-ray and DVD.
The print I just saw last weekend was matted closer to 1.85:1 It did appear to be missing some information at the top and bottom, but not enough to lose the subs.
Re: 539 House
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:01 am
by Zombie-Luv
Just got back from seeing this with my mum, and we both hated it. It was indulgent and it felt like it when on forever. I really did like the theme song, though.
Re: 539 House
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:13 am
by Tribe
Zombie-Luv wrote:Just got back from seeing this with my mum, and we both hated it. It was indulgent and it felt like it when on forever. I really did like the theme song, though.
Indulgent. Who woulda thought.
Re: 539 House
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:58 am
by HerrSchreck
Jeff wrote:marnum wrote:Sorry for the repetition, but the announced aspect ratio can't be right. Should be 1.55:1.
MoC's transfer is 1.55 because that is what was on the ten year old master that Toho supplied them with. They weren't sure why Toho did that, but it looks fine. Janus did their own new high-def master of the original elements (which are 1.37, of course) and elected not to mask it at all. Their 1.37 print is what played recently in U.S. theaters, and that is what will be on the Criterion Blu-ray and DVD.
Yep, I can vouch for that... I saw it projected at IFC earlier in the year after the restoration and I can vouch that it was projected theatrically by Janus in the academy ratio. WTF is 1.55 anyhow? Kind of a whack AR to begin with.
Re: 539 House
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:27 am
by The Fanciful Norwegian
Yes, it's called
14:9. As noted in the link, it's sometimes used to present 4:3 material in a 16:9 broadcast, so I'm guessing similar logic compelled Toho to make a 14:9 master of
House. I have a few DVDs in the same AR, including one of Rohmer's "Four Seasons" films (can't remember which) and
The Housemaid.
Re: 539 House
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:56 pm
by TechNoir
HK Flix has a cool T-shirt that they are giving away for free with preorders of this title. Its the same one thats on the Criterion site. It also comes with a large round decal as well.
Re: Atkins shirts
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:53 pm
by Minkin
Yeah, but the shirts are only available in Large and Extra Large. Is that HK Flix's target audience?
What's with people not posting links today?
Re: Atkins shirts
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:57 pm
by swo17
Minkin wrote:What's with people not posting links today?
Insert smarmy wikipedia reference here.
Re: 539 House
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 2:51 pm
by Venom
Re: 539 House
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:16 pm
by Cash Flagg
Zombie-Luv wrote:It was indulgent and it felt like it when on forever.
I would imagine any film on forever would feel like it was indulgent.
Re: 539 House
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:59 am
by cdnchris
Re: 539 House
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:54 pm
by zombeaner
I still fail miserably when trying to describe this film to friends. It is just impossible.
Re: 539 House
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:06 pm
by mfunk9786
We recently invited a lot of people to a screening and had to do a lot of awkward convincing for a few of them. It's annoying to realize that you're not respected enough for "trust me, just come and see it" to work outright.
Re: 539 House
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:10 pm
by Peacock
Did they enjoy it?
Re: 539 House
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:48 pm
by Buttery Jeb
I just told people it was bat-shit insane; those who came, they'd have enjoyed it the most anyway.
Re: 539 House
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:52 pm
by mfunk9786
Peacock wrote:Did they enjoy it?
Of course, should go without saying!

Re: 539 House
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:06 pm
by Minkin
Re: 539 House
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:32 pm
by crmb
Unfortunately, looks like the blu is cropped to 1.33 and not in the original 1.37. (missing left-right information VS the 1.55 master)
I don't see the the point to not release it 1.37
Re: 539 House
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:09 pm
by Finch
Anyone know why the Crit has a purple tint in one screencap and the MoC doesn't? And which one is accurate?
Re: 539 House
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:27 pm
by mteller
Finch wrote:Anyone know why the Crit has a purple tint in one screencap and the MoC doesn't? And which one is accurate?
I don't know, but considering it's
House, I'd bet on the wackier purple.
Re: 539 House
Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:33 pm
by med
I can't say for certain whether that purple was there when I saw the film around the start of the year, but I'd assume it was. I doubt any additional futzing around was performed on the print between the theatrical run the home-video release, since Janus/Criterion handled them both. And given that Toho master MOC used is cropped wrong, anyway, the Criterion is the safe bet.
Re: 539 House
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 1:43 am
by Giulio
wait wait wait please
which one is cropped? for beaver both, which is the correct AR?
Re: 539 House
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:32 am
by criterionsnob
The re-release was definitely projected 1.33:1 and had the tint.
Re: 539 House
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 2:31 pm
by andyli
crmb wrote:Unfortunately, looks like the blu is cropped to 1.33 and not in the original 1.37. (missing left-right information VS the 1.55 master)
I don't see the the point to not release it 1.37
Did CC release one single blu-ray title which has 1.37:1 ratio instead of 1.33:1? I think it's a company thing. They just don't want to make two different transfers for DVD and Blu-ray.
Re: 539 House
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:57 pm
by med
They actually do perform different transfers for DVD and BD releases of the same title, but I know what you mean. And the subject of MOC's 1.55 vs. Criterion's 1.37/1.33 was already addressed in this thread.
The colors on the MOC release—I'm judging from the Beaver caps here, as I've never seen the disc itself—are fairly dull and washed out. Given the nature of the film overall, I'm sure it was the filmmaker's intent to have bright, popping colors.