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Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:14 pm
by Askew
Since others have pointed out that the angels in the water are most likely Bay of Angels, The Umbrellas of Cherbourg and Donkey Skin, I'm pretty sure the angel with the puffy black thing around its neck is referring to Demy's Lola.

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:22 pm
by EddieLarkin
Not surprised they've gone for It's a Wonderful Life, the current disc being fairly awful.
domino harvey wrote:What's the deer behind the bush?
Never seen it, but someone elsewhere suggested The Straight Story?

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:31 pm
by kieslowski
This might just be wishful thinking, but could the spot of red in the middle of the picnic be a reference to this moment in Le Boucher?
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Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:36 pm
by NABOB OF NOWHERE
colinr0380 wrote:
domino harvey wrote:What's the deer behind the bush?
The Deer Hunter? Is that a possibility?
The White Reindeer?

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:41 pm
by EddieLarkin
NABOB OF NOWHERE wrote:Is that a Sadako Ringu hairdo at the picnic?
Hope so, if only because I think Kalat would be up for a commentary for it.

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:43 pm
by c0bbz
I think that the angel with the bell could very well be Lars Von Trier's Breaking the Waves.

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:49 pm
by colinr0380
EddieLarkin wrote:
NABOB OF NOWHERE wrote:Is that a Sadako Ringu hairdo at the picnic?
Hope so, if only because I think Kalat would be up for a commentary for it.
There would certainly be room for a wealth of information for a commentary track there about the various attempts to do a sequel from the faithful (The Spiral, released at the same time as the first Ring film and sticking closely to the Koji Suzuki follow up, which is more of a medical thriller than a horror film) to the completely invented 'new' Ring 2 created to keep the series in the horror vein after The Spiral bombed, to the US remake and similar Nakata-helmed sequel to the US remake.

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:59 pm
by kieslowski
One very awkward, wishful thinking guess:
Hiding deer = Frightened stag = Vredens Dag

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:03 pm
by antnield
Minkin wrote:And perhaps I'm seeing things in my tiredness, but is that The Tingler wrapped around one of the angels?
Pretty sure that's referencing Demy's Donkey Skin...

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Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:11 pm
by ptatler
Deer = HART OF LONDON?
Four beetles = four Beatles?

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:15 pm
by jindianajonz
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Based on what has been said so far in this thread, this is what people are guessing. Two things that don't seem to be accounted for are the two candies(?) next to Ringu, and a cross on the cliff wall.

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:19 pm
by britcom68
CriterionCast absolutely got one thing wrong (only one you say derisively)... that is not Tootsie having a picnic. That would be Woody Allen's Take the Money and Run. And as for the four "beatles" approaching the picnic, I am very doubtful Criterion could get their hands back on that title. I suspect it is indeed Saul Bass' "Phase IV"- ants approaching a picnic works well visually.

Any thoughts on if the female at the picnic is indeed a Ringu figure? I know it is not Janet Margolin paired with Woody Allen's TTMAR. But with the blood in front of her, it reminds me of Rae Dawn Chong in Quest for Fire- there's a possibility, her name even has a wordplay with the context of this drawing's choice of red.

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:20 pm
by c0bbz
The candies are Sidney Pollack's Tootsie.

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:22 pm
by Harmonov
Couldn't the California Raisin be for The Big Chill, since those stupid ass commercials featuring them when I was a kid had them singing "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" and that song is featured prominently on the TBC soundtrack?

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:22 pm
by CSM126
Sadako has some discarded Tootsie roll wrappers next to her, so Tootsie (duh).

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:24 pm
by britcom68
Harmonov wrote:Couldn't the California Raisin be for The Big Chill, since those stupid ass commercials featuring them when I was a kid had them singing "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" and that song is featured prominently on the TBC soundtrack?
Brilliant! I like that as a double-dip clue very much! :)

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:26 pm
by britcom68
CSM126 wrote:Sadako has some discarded Tootsie roll wrappers next to her, so Tootsie (duh).
I can't tell if those are Tootsie roll wrappers or not, although the visual of Sadako eating candy while fulfilling the curse of killing makes me want to laugh.

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:26 pm
by domino harvey
britcom68 wrote:That would be Woody Allen's Take the Money and Run. And as for the four "beatles" approaching the picnic, I am very doubtful Criterion could get their hands back on that title. I suspect it is indeed Saul Bass' "Phase IV"- ants approaching a picnic works well visually.
What? The escapee is Riot in Cell Block 11 for sure (look at the number) and those creatures are clearly not ants.

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:27 pm
by Buttery Jeb
Now that I've thought about it, I'm going to guess that the figure we're guessing is Sadako from Ringu, is actually Truffaut's Wild Child.

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:28 pm
by Harmonov
Buttery Jeb wrote:Now that I've thought about it, I'm going to guess that the figure we're guessing is Sadako from Ringu, is actually Truffaut's Wild Child.
I was thinking the same thing, actually.

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:31 pm
by Jeff
Harmonov wrote:Couldn't the California Raisin be for The Big Chill, since those stupid ass commercials featuring them when I was a kid had them singing "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" and that song is featured prominently on the TBC soundtrack?
I think that's actually more likely.

You guys sure devoured that picture this morning. I expect to wake up to at least 15 new Criterion hints every morning this year.

I'm not entirely sure that Paramount would part with it, but what's up with the digs at It's a Wonderful Life? Saccharine indeed!

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:38 pm
by CSM126
Jeff wrote:
Harmonov wrote:Couldn't the California Raisin be for The Big Chill, since those stupid ass commercials featuring them when I was a kid had them singing "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" and that song is featured prominently on the TBC soundtrack?
I think that's actually more likely.

You guys sure devoured that picture this morning. I expect to wake up to at least 15 new Criterion hints every morning this year.

I'm not entirely sure that Paramount would part with it, but what's up with the digs at It's a Wonderful Life? Saccharine indeed!
I can see Paramount licensing IaWL. Probably "non-exclusive" license like Days of Heaven and Benjamin Button for one thing. And for another, I'm sure they'd keep their own disc on the market. Your average Joe will go shopping, see the Paramount disc for ten bucks and the Criterion for forty and grab the cheaper of the two. A Criterion edition would really only be for hardcore fans of the film, hardcore fans of Criterion, and people with an obsessive compulsion to buy every single spine number regardless of their personal feeling towards the film.

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:55 pm
by The Narrator Returns
Altman's Kansas City might be a fit for the jazz combo. Someone on a different site suggested the angels were "God moving on the face of the waters", a clue for Heat, which is such a good idea that I may have to accept it as fact.

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:58 pm
by Jeff
The notorious "Mister Lime" has said over at Kramerica Industries that Riot in Cell Block 11 (which was initially a Republic title) did not go to Olive, and had in fact been "acquired by another company."

Re: Forthcoming Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:08 pm
by domino harvey
The Narrator Returns wrote:Someone on a different site suggested the angels were "God moving on the face of the waters", a clue for Heat, which is such a good idea that I may have to accept it as fact.
If it was a clue for Heat, it would be depicting literally anything else. "There's blood in Heat, it's a clueee!"