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Re: 842 Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2016 11:03 pm
by Ribs
Beaver
Spoiler: It looks unsurprisingly spectacular.
Re: 842 Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:02 am
by fritz78
The return of the teal... Does anybody know if Bologna or Eclair was turning the color wheel? Who did the restauration? No mention of that in the Beaver review.
Re: 842 Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 8:25 am
by fritz78
Oh, it's also a tad oversaturated, with bleeding reds and all... Why do people (colorists) think films should look so glow-in-the-dark these days? It's a little ridiculous.
Re: 842 Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:07 am
by MichaelB
I last saw it in 35mm, and the thing I most vividly remember were the heightened, far from naturalistic colours.
Re: 842 Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:03 am
by dwk
Re: 842 Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:41 am
by Never Cursed
That looks pretty amazing. I was worried about the 200+ minutes of extras hurting the PQ, but it seems like that isn't an issue.
Re: 842 Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:26 pm
by fritz78
Well, it's one thing to have saturated, unnaturalistic colors or oversaturated ones that extinguish nuances and your video codec can't handle properly (usually reds, which need to be dialed down if you increase the saturation of your image to bring out more muted colors since they tend to bleed). As it is, the picture is way too "hot". It's beautiful, but it would be even nicer without the oversaturation. See also: LADY SNOWBLOOD.
Re: 842 Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:53 pm
by Minkin
They should've used fritz78 instead, as he's Takao Saito reincarnated.
Re: 842 Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 2:06 pm
by fritz78
Ít would have been my pleasure

Re: 842 Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:57 am
by fritz78
The "tealing" is even more extreme than I initally thought, but funnily enough, I have to say that in the case of DREAMS it works better than the naturalistic color grading of the DVD. It has to be said, though, that this impression might be influenced by the bad-quality-SD-blow-up-screenshots in the comparison:
http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&a=0& ... 95&i=9&l=0
http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=9251&d ... =9&l=0&a=1
Re: 842 Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 4:33 pm
by What A Disgrace
As with Female Prisoner Scorpion and Lady Snowblood, this looks better than the previous editions.
Re: 842 Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:21 am
by captveg
The way Stephen Prince early in the commentary continually mentions how Dreams, Rhapsody in August and Madadayo thematically tie together makes me think he's recorded commentaries for upcoming releases of those films, too.
Re: 842 Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:46 am
by Gregory
Haven't heard the commentary yet but it seems obvious that Kurosawa's final few works were connected in important ways creatively and that Criterion will keep releasing his works in a way we've come to expect (Dersu Uzala next?).
Re: 842 Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:10 am
by MichaelB
Mungo wrote:That looks pretty amazing. I was worried about the 200+ minutes of extras hurting the PQ, but it seems like that isn't an issue.
150 minutes of those are (unavoidably) SD, which probably helps.
Re: 842 Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:56 am
by tenia
Well, I watched some of the Lone Wolf & Cub and Criterion gave the Wild Side SD doc a higher bitrate than the movies so you never know...
Re: 842 Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:14 am
by MichaelB
Well, you do know in this case because the Beev makes it clear that the feature occupies 27 gigabytes. Which seems about right in terms of proportions - and it's quite a static film much of the time, so I imagine a bitrate of nearly 27Mbps is equally healthy.
Re: 842 Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:42 am
by tenia
Oh I know. I just meant that before having more info about the encode and the disc space handling, the fact that the documentary was SD wasnt enough to reassure people about the movie allocation.
If Criterion was always limiting the bandwidth of SD extras, that would have been enough but since it isnt the case...
Re: 842 Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:02 am
by movielocke
Kinda loved this overall, the earnest sincerity of the stories becomes overwhelming after the Tunnel, but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. There's a lot to unpack in the film, and one and a half viewings is not enough. The way the stories interlock in subtle ways to build a structure of an entire life's dreams is fascinating.
The dance of the dolls was really just a totally stunning experience.
Re: 842 Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:22 pm
by xoconostle
movielocke wrote:
The dance of the dolls was really just a totally stunning experience.
Indeed, it's what hit me the hardest when I saw the film in its original release, and again while viewing the Criterion disc. Pure elegant grace transcending words and underscoring the sadness of that sequence's ending.
Re: 842 Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:43 am
by med
Stephen Prince's commentary is as good as expected, though it was amusing after his pronouncing Van Gogh's name correctly several times, he slips once and says it the commonly mistaken way of "Van Go".
Re: 842 Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 3:55 pm
by manicsounds
I haven't listened to it yet, but I assume he has botched the pronunciation of every single Japanese name or place name he could.
Re: 842 Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 4:21 pm
by ChunkyLover
4K UHD upgrade coming in August.
Re: 842 Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:54 pm
by FrauBlucher