Re: TV of 2018
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:19 pm
I get to the in the first season every time I try to watch it and then just zone out. LQ loves it though, and feels it got better as it went along
Spoiler
trial episode
Agreed. There's a big reason that Jones won't be back though.flyonthewall2983 wrote: Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:01 pm Easy to kill characters off if there's been this much time in between.
Indeed I did. Would love to be wrong about W Earl Brown, especiallydomino harvey wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 1:37 am The Deadline article only lists twelve returning cast members, but doesn't mention by name anyone who isn't coming back, so I think the user who posted it made an assumption on who isn't returning
I would assume Jeffrey Jones won't be back because of the whole doing owning very illegal things with children thing and solicitation.swo17 wrote: Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:28 am Have we seen anything to go against the earlier quote that every living cast member but one was on board?
Timothy Olyphant wrote:On his ambivalence about doing the movie
...one of the great appeals of working with David is the chaos. And in the same respect of feeling like I don’t know why these fuckers blew this show up 12 years ago, there’s a tinge of me feeling ripped off that these fuckers didn’t get this thing going sooner. Because what I do miss, without getting too much in the weeds about why I may have not been as interested in this as perhaps others, I always thought if we’re going to do it, we should go back and give David the opportunity to do what he does best, which is multiple episodes.
He’s one of the greatest episodic writers the genre has ever seen. And to some degree, my concern has always been, for our movie, what’s the fucking point? My recollection of what made the show great was never the plot. What made the show great was spending time with these characters, and that whatever characters were on screen, the show might as well be about them. And when you do a movie, you just don’t have the real estate. So, nobody wants to see The Untouchables where the lady with the baby carriage at the train station has 20 pages of material, because you’ve got to take out 20 pages that goes to Eliot Ness and there lies the rub. Right? So, the idea of doing a movie of this show, by its very nature, my concern was, “Are we not destroying the show? Are you killing the very thing by handcuffing it?” But all that being said, I’m glad I did it.
On how the show got cancelled
I’ll tell you my version, and I already said this earlier: I fully understand that my memory of how it happened may not be how it happened, even for me. This is a story I’ve told over the years and every time you tell it, it changes. And let me also preface this with, I’ve never been one to let truth get in the way of a good story. So, if you are holding onto facts and you’re going to call me on these facts, go fuck yourself.
On his post-Deadwood choices
And let me put this under the list of why these people owe me. What we have to thank for this is the villain in [Live Free or] Die Hard and a fucking bald head in Bulgaria shooting Hitman. That’s what that phone call led to. “How about the villain of Die Hard?” I said, “Sure.” And they’re like, “Do you want to read the script?” I said, ” I get it. I’m in. I just bought a house. Did you not hear? They just canceled my fucking show. Yes, I’ll do it.” “What about this video game adaptation?” “Yes to that too. I’m in. I’ve got to make up some TV money.” You know what, though? Those experiences were equally valuable. Oddly enough, those kinds of experiences, perhaps arguably more valuable than these. You know? Find yourself bald in Bulgaria doing some pile of shit, that will get you up a little earlier in the morning and make you work a little harder.
Pledge US$ 30 or more
A LIE AGREED UPON (signed)
A LIE AGREED UPON: THE DEADWOOD CHRONICLES is a book by Matt Zoller Seitz, author of The Wes Anderson Collection and Mad Men Carousel and co-author of TV: The Book and The Sopranos Sessions. It covers the making of all three seasons of HBO's Deadwood plus the movie, plus information on the career of David Milch's career before and after the series.
A LIE AGREED UPON is a collectors' item designed to resemble a weathered hardbound Bible from the 1900s, with faux-gold leaf edges, and some sections done in chapter-and-verse. It will include hand drawn illustrations by Max Dalton (who illustrated three MZS books) and an introduction by bestselling author Megan Abbott (Dare Me), who also wrote the intro to Mad Men Carousel.
In the spirit of this great series about community, Seitz will interview dozens of people associated with every level of the production, from series creator David Milch, the directors, and the stars, down to extras, stable hands, and production assistants.
INCLUDES:
Signed by the author
ESTIMATED DELIVERY
Nov 2020
Apparently there are groups of purchasers in certain countries coordinating bulk overseas shipment and then local distribution to keep costs down, so that may be worth looking into if you do back it.mistakaninja wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:27 pm Minimum 85 bucks extra to the UK, but I'll probably still pull the trigger.
Dearest hoopleheads:
I write with a heavy heart. My wife Nancy Dawson has been battling a rare and pernicious form of breast cancer for the past 18 months. She had a mastectomy in November, 2018, and had been having proactive or “prophylactic” treatments since then (radiation and chemotherapy). As of late spring, we were told that she was in remission with “no evidence of cancer,” which is why I felt safe in undertaking a project of the magnitude of A Lie Agreed Upon.
Unfortunately, to paraphrase Al, if you want to hear God laugh, tell him your plans.
In November 2019, scans revealed that the cancer had returned and spread to her vertebrae and liver. In early December, the doctors informed us that there was nothing further that could be done, and that she probably had “weeks” left.
Since the terminal diagnosis, our extended family has been trying to spend as much time with Nancy as possible while having frank and pragmatic conversations about the future. This includes Transform, the Cincinnati-based nonprofit that Nancy co-founded last year, which gives donated clothes to trans & non-binary teenagers.
https://www.facebook.com/transformcincy/
I’ve been chronicling the entire journey on Twitter in a thread that starts here:
https://twitter.com/mattzollerseitz/sta ... 4085286915
Work on the Deadwood book has continued throughout, and will continue. Shortly before learning of the return of Nancy’s illness, I hired two fulfillment coordinators, Colleen McSwiggin and Julie Pergrem, and they started pricing shipping options and creating spreadsheets to track everyone’s information moving forward. Oriana Schwindt has continued to conduct interviews, and Jeremy Fassler has transcribed them. Paula Bonhomme, aka Bubble Genius, has been in contact with me about starting production on the soap, boxes, and prizes.
All that having been said, the cancer treatments and their personal fallout have complicated my ability to do anything work-related (including getting the backer reports out, and making design choices with the printing press). I’m coming to terms with the fact that we might need to delay production of the book by six months to a year, depending on how quickly the family recovers from this loss. I don't know for a fact that we'll have to push the deadline forward a bit, or exactly how long it might be pushed, because the worst hasn't happened yet. But I thought it was important to be transparent and let you know what was going on.
Look for another update -- an excerpt from an interview! -- soon. Thank you for your support and understanding.
--Matt