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Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:14 am
by Michael Kerpan
The Cluny Brown cover makes me think of Clutch Cargo.

Heart-Wrenching: the Cluny Brown Cover Story

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:00 pm
by criterionoop
Criterion updates the CLUNY BROWN cover...it’s a relative improvement, but that artwork is still terrible.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:13 pm
by soundchaser
They don’t seem to understand those dead eyes are going to look dead no matter the background.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:18 pm
by domino harvey
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They... they made it worse?! The background contrast to the main image was the only thing going for this cover, now it’s all monochrome. Wow. I’m speechless. It’s like they’re intentionally fucking with us

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:20 pm
by BigMack3000
Is the film a nightmarish parody of Looney Tunes? Because then it's spot on.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:24 pm
by KJones77
What the hell. Yeah, the red was the only good part before.

Criterion, the problem is how Jennifer Jones is drawn, not the rest of the cover. Centering her and making it monochrome does not make it better.

The sad part is, now this great title will likely be doomed with this horrible drawing on the cover. If they changed it once, I doubt they'll change it twice.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:37 pm
by domino harvey
I wonder if the reason they won’t have the artist draw it again is because Criterion already okayed the art, thus her contracted work has already been finalized? Since they don’t want to pay her again to do it over, they’re just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic instead

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:44 pm
by Brian C
It’s better now because at least it doesn’t look like a movie about a 50-foot Rosie the Riveter robot on the rampage. Jones now still looks robotic, but not as menacingly so.

But the Looney Toons motif is a bunch of weirdness on its own. Still, at least it actually looks like a comedy now.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:16 pm
by DRW.mov
I think it’s a marked improvement. To me the contrast between the red wallpaper and monochrome Jennifer Jones was the most jarring element.

And yes, Domino is correct that Caitlin’s commission is contractually completed. Commissioning any additional work from her would be an added fee but I feel that with her long history with Criterion and their approval of this execution that this is a design that they stand behind. I don’t think it’s nearly as bad as people are making it out to be. Like I said I think it’s much more appealing to the eye in its current form, but at the end of the day I’m just over the moon in general it’s a title that’s finally being released.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:26 pm
by Malickite
Clooney Toons

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:28 pm
by Finch
Other artists have published their alternative covers, like Fred Davis (correct name? not sure) did for FWWM and Mulholland Drive. Maybe they should make all these Cluny Brown covers public and let a majority vote decide.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 8:49 pm
by Shrew
They updated Seth's artwork for City Lights to make Chaplin look more like Chaplin, but I don't know if that was
a) The artist being more accommodating
b) An in-house illustrator/designer being able to more easily make edits to the cartoonish art, and Seth signing off on that/not complaining
c) Criterion forking over some extra money for what was expected to be a big seller (City Lights) vs. a good film that's not likely to fly off shelves (Cluny Brown)

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:08 pm
by FrauBlucher
Didn’t they do the same with The Philadelphia Story? They had a weird blue and red thing going if I remember correctly and switched it to monochrome for the better.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:09 pm
by swo17
Just blue but yes

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Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:18 pm
by CSM126
Maybe next time they’ll let the artist see a picture of the person they’re drawing.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:08 pm
by HinkyDinkyTruesmith
I think that this might be the absolute worst modern Criterion cover I've ever seen––but, this is one of my very favorite movies of all-time, so, frankly, even the absolute travesty that is that cover font can't diminish my enthusiasm.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:21 pm
by swo17
It doesn't look as bad when it's tiny?

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Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 10:24 pm
by FrauBlucher
It just looks like an ad from the 1950s. Maybe Cluny Brown was a soap used after using a wrench and other tools.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:08 pm
by criterionoop
I just really can't get over the fact that her hand is a cup and she is dead behind the eyes.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:16 pm
by KJones77
I only just noticed that the circle makes it seem like she has just one arm. This cover is so bad.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:36 pm
by swo17
The wrench is her other arm. Haven't you seen the movie?

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:52 pm
by domino harvey
Not to spoil one of Lubitsch's most prescient jokes, but Charles Boyer's aristocratic interstellar commander calls Jennifer Jones' character X-1F344-32-G44C3 "Cluny" because that's the sound her robot joints make when she's cleaning up under the sink of his rocketship

Re: Heart-Wrenching: the Cluny Brown Cover Story

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:26 am
by Feego
The flare of light on the wrench (not present on the original cover) truly is the icing on the cake, suggesting a weapon and that RoboCluny is coming for you. To be honest, I don't think this is nearly as ugly as the "upgraded" covers for Sullivan's Travels and My Man Godfrey, but those had their fans. I would argue that Veronica Lake is still the bigger victim when it comes to cartoonish representations on Criterion covers. This whole saga is just hilarious to me, though, and it makes me wish Criterion would adopt Arrow, Shout Factory and sometimes Kino's practice of providing original poster artwork on the reverse side.

Re: Heart-Wrenching: the Cluny Brown Cover Story

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 12:56 am
by black&huge
The new cover is just as bad as the first. Not anymore or less.... just mindboggling.

Re: Heart-Wrenching: the Cluny Brown Cover Story

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:33 am
by ballmouse
I was curious what the original poster from 1946 looked like. It actually has a similar alien, robotic touch.

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