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Re: Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi, 2019)
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:27 pm
by mfunk9786
Nadine Labaki and David Cronenberg would like a word
Re: Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi, 2019)
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:32 pm
by Apperson
I mean, TIFF have literally altered the process to make sure potential recent winner are Oscar nominees.
On the other hand, people saying that Parasite can't be nominated because it only 2/3 placers can be nominated are the real pedantic weirdos.
Re: Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi, 2019)
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:57 pm
by Cremildo
In the last decade, with only one exception (the Labaki movie), every TIFF audience award winner went on to be at least nominated for Best Picture at the Oscars. As Jojo Rabbit isn't a low-key foreign-language film, I'd say there's little reason to think the "stats" will be broken.
Re: Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi, 2019)
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:41 pm
by mfunk9786
This movie is not getting nominated for Best Picture
Re: Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi, 2019)
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:47 pm
by Apperson
Let it be known I was going do find you saying Malek wouldn't get nominated last year before realizing it was domino who said that and you actually said:
mfunk9786 on Oct 08 2018 wrote: Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:51 am
Just going to put my flag in the ground and say I think Malek is definitely nominated for this.
So you're in the clear for now...
Re: Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi, 2019)
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:51 pm
by domino harvey
I still owe him a dollar over that
Re: Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi, 2019)
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:35 pm
by mfunk9786
Imagining Oprah Winfrey saying "A young boy. His camping troupe. And a little man named... Hitler?! This... is Jojo Rabbit." and the projector screen lowering from the rafters as the lights dim
Re: Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi, 2019)
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:36 pm
by domino harvey
I hope you’re right and this film’s Oscar chances are also imaginary, because I don’t want to have to see this (my catchphrase every year)
Re: Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi, 2019)
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:37 pm
by Big Ben
mfunk9786 wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:35 pm
Imagining Oprah Winfrey saying "A young boy. His camping troupe. And a little man named... Hitler?! This... is
Jojo Rabbit." and the projector screen lowering from the rafters as the lights dim
And then announcing that everyone in the audience will be receiving a Jojo Rabbit themed gift bag that's already underneath all their seats.
Re: Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi, 2019)
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:41 pm
by mfunk9786
This theater full of drooling clods thinks they're seeing this year's #1 grossing film, Jojo Rabbit. They have no idea that this is about to be a 10 minute cell phone ad featuring celebrities who'd usually pull 7 figures in Japan to be involved in such a thing
Re: Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi, 2019)
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:50 pm
by Never Cursed
domino harvey wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:36 pm
I hope you’re right and this film’s Oscar chances are also imaginary, because I don’t want to have to see this (my catchphrase every year)
You say that about this now, but wait till
Avengers: Endgame is nominated for Picture and you have to sit through half the MCU just for the events of that film to make any sense
Re: Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi, 2019)
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:13 pm
by domino harvey
Thank God Joker exists to funnel any votes that might be tempted to pledge towards such a thing
Re: Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi, 2019)
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:35 pm
by swo17
Naw, you're going to have to watch all three
Re: Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi, 2019)
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:00 am
by Nasir007
domino harvey wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:36 pm
I hope you’re right and this film’s Oscar chances are also imaginary, because I don’t want to have to see this (my catchphrase every year)
No need to watch garbage just because it is nominated for oscars. I still haven't seen Green Book or Bohemian Rhaposdy or A Star is Born among others and have zero interest to see any of them even though they won oscars.
Re: Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi, 2019)
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:01 am
by dda1996a
A Star is Born is neither garbage nor good, but it's definitely worth a watch. But aomeof us here are BP completists
Re: Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi, 2019)
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:09 am
by mfunk9786
A Star is Born is borderline great and you're missing out if you don't watch it just because you feel a sense of superiority toward it
Re: Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi, 2019)
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:15 am
by domino harvey
Nasir007, I unfortunately have committed to seeing every film nominated for Best Pic, so yes, I do. I’m also not currently accepting opinions on this life choice
Re: Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi, 2019)
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 4:33 am
by mfunk9786
Re: Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi, 2019)
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:23 pm
by thirtyframesasecond
Wasn't The Painted Bird supposed to fiction presented as fact?
Re: Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi, 2019)
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:26 pm
by mfunk9786
Yeah, I guess I thought the jury was somewhat out on that one way or the other, but it does appear it was fictionalized. Still think the point stands, though
Re: Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi, 2019)
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:51 pm
by Big Ben
thirtyframesasecond wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:23 pm
Wasn't The Painted Bird supposed to fiction presented as fact?
I was under the impression that a great deal of
Jerzy Kosiński's work and life was under scrutiny due to it quite possibly being a fabrication right down to his Holocaust experiences. Even Being There is contested as really just being a slightly reworked Polish novel that American audiences would not have been familiar with.
The backdrop to both Jojo and Bird are very serious but the depictions therein are vastly different which is where the contention is really coming from in my opinion.
Re: Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi, 2019)
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:16 am
by spectre
Walkouts aren't necessarily a moral decision, though. Far more likely the viewers just couldn't stomach the content, and that's fair enough. Like many, I probably would rather see Iannucci's
The Death of Stalin than an ultra-realistic recreation of the Ukrainian famine or gulags; what does that really tell us other than the fact that comedy is an easier way of processing real-life horrors and that not everybody always has the will or intestinal fortitude to stare into the abyss?
Of course, it's also possible it's just a bad film.
Re: Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi, 2019)
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 5:25 am
by tenia
Not many people are willing to accept being shown in a straightforward manner the darkest abilities of mankind to be and do absolute evil.
Part is unconscious superiority complex, part is empathy (or at least sympathy).
Re: Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi, 2019)
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:17 pm
by knives
This is without question my most anticipated film for the moment so naturally to stem the wait I've gotten to the book. I'm about halfway through Caging Skies and its really amazing. I wholly recommend it and it has me anticipating the movie even more because it seems Waititi radically changed it. The trailer seems to only cover the first third of the book so I'm not going to make any assumptions of how he adapted beyond that if at all, but some of the changes highlighted in the trailer make it stand out as an unique vision with a completely different set of themes. The tone of the novel is also fairly different playing out almost like a regular dramatic novel, with irony causing some painful laughs. It's a very down to earth book which no one could accuse the trailer of being,
The most obvious difference from a marketing standpoint at least is no imaginary Hitler. This doesn't seem that important thematically though. The most meaningful distance is age. While Johannes starts the book off at about 8 he's between 15-20 for the war period which inevitably makes his thoughts more mature and plainly villainous. He sees Elsa, the Jew under the stairs, as a sexual figure at first with his youthful impotence being pushed on her in a way you obviously can't do with the movie protagonist. Likewise his relationship with his mother is much more poisonous than the trailer suggests. Her blatant dislike for the regime causes a war at home mirroring the one outside. Additionally his father and grandmother are major characters which is still possible in the movie I suppose. A few other smaller characters also seem different in the movie. The friend in the trailer gets blown up very early in the book while the Rockwell character is far younger and is barely in it. The Wilson one seems a total fabrication. Merchant's character seems to have a bigger role in the movie, but that might just be the effect of the trailer. The scaring Johannes suffers is also much more serious in the book. He loses an arm and most of one side of his face is hamburger meat. The war actually ends about midway through the book which I'm curious how the movie will deal with that if at all.
Re: Jojo Rabbit (Taika Waititi, 2019)
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 10:21 pm
by mfunk9786
Interesting thoughts, thank you! I'll be seeing it in a couple of weeks, even though it might be my least anticipated film for the moment (har har har), so I'll be able to let the forum know how [I think] it is soon enough. Although I guess it's getting a limited release in NY/LA a day prior to my seeing it, so someone will probably beat me to it!