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Re: 146 / BD 35 Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:45 pm
by Bikey
A wonderful new piece on Tsai Ming-Liang's film and the magic of cinema by James Balmont at
Little White Lies.
Re: 146 / BD 35 Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:31 pm
by Bikey
"The visuals on display put the older SD DVD releases to shame...
the interview with Tsai is worth the price of admission alone. This Blu-ray is highly recommended."
Beaver
Re: 146 / BD 35 Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:54 am
by Bikey
Now back in stock at
Amazon UK
Re: 146 / BD 35 Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 1:11 pm
by Aunt Peg
Hopefully that means Zavvi will get it back in stock too soon and dispatch my copy.
Re: 146 / BD 35 Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:49 am
by mteller
This was a great disc to break in my new 65" TV. The colors really pop and the level of detail is fantastic. I still rank the film near the bottom of Tsai's features, but only because his others are so dear to me. This one doesn't get me as much on a gut level, but there is some really fantastic humor in it. Madam Butterfly is also better than I remembered it, wouldn't call it a favorite but it's an interesting thing to chew on. Good interview with Tsai.
Re: 146 / BD 35 Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:13 pm
by The Elegant Dandy Fop
Is there something going on with the production of this disc? It seems like it’s been available nowhere since release. Even my go-to for new import discs on eBay has yet to have this in stock. It’s quite unusual!
Re: 146 / BD 35 Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:20 pm
by criterionsnob
Hopefully that means they've sold a lot of copies. I'd love to see more Tsai from them. I received my copy
directly from Second Run shortly after release. I'm happy to support them directly, even if it costs a little bit more. They also sent me a post card for Vitalina Varela.
This is my early pick for UK Blu-ray of the year. It's like watching the film for the first time.
Re: 146 / BD 35 Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:02 pm
by Bikey
There's plenty of stock, no manufacture issues.
It's also available at
Amazon UK (at just £14.99 currently)
Re: 146 / BD 35 Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:38 am
by Aunt Peg
Zavvi dispatched mine the other day.
Re: 146 / BD 35 Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:22 am
by Bikey
"The film manages to balance humorous and melancholy tones perfectly with a slow, steady pace that becomes hypnotic... The film's global Blu-ray premiere [...] from Second Run looks pretty spectacular; the many dark scenes that were impenetrable on previous editions are crystal clear here and feature saturated, beautiful colours..."
Mondo Digital
Re: 146 / BD 35 Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:42 pm
by The Elegant Dandy Fop
DiabolikDVD in the US just got this in for those in the states that can’t justify Amazon UK’s shipping rates. I happily ordered it and can’t wait to rewatch this.
Re: 146 / BD 35 Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 6:37 pm
by jbeall
Re: 146 / BD 35 Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:42 am
by Bikey
Re: 146 / BD 35 Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:31 am
by Aunt Peg
Got my copy today and just watched it. Beautiful restoration and the film holds up well which was hardly a surprise as all as Tsai's film do. Also, I haven't test the film but the back of the case states ABC.
Re: 146 / BD 35 Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:41 am
by T!me
I blindly bought the Blu-ray after I read of the high praise the movie got in here and elsewhere and my god, I really loved it. The way Tsai captures all those little idiosyncrasies of cinema and its audience really made me sad for not being able to watch it on the big screen myself.
This was my fourth contact or so with Taiwanese cinema in general and together with Hu's Dragon Inn, which I watched immediately prior to this and Yang's Terrorizers I watched a few days later really created an interest for more. If someone can recommend some movies in the vein of Goodbye, Dragon Inn to me, I'd highly appreciate it.
Re: 146 / BD 35 Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:44 am
by knives
Anything else by Tsai seems an obvious point of continuous although this is the furthest in a traditional narrative he’s gone in this mode.
Tsai works a bit in series so while not necessary watching the films in order does provoke a unique response.
Re: 146 / BD 35 Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:20 pm
by Maltic
Regarding "all those little idiosyncrasies of cinema and its audience," Luc Moullet's Les sièges de l'Alcazar (1989) is the film, I would say. A very funny send-up of all the aspiring Cahiers critics out there.
Re: 146 / BD 35 Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:37 pm
by senseabove
I'm slowly working my way through all of Tsai's features right now, and as for where to go next, I can only emphasize how much more of a magical effect his movies have seen in conjunction with each other, due to his repeated use of the same actors with explicit or ambiguously implicit connections to their past iterations in the world of his movies. So the first suggestion is definitely to loop back to Rebels of the Neon God and start forward from there. Even when the movies aren't narratively related and the actors aren't explicitly playing the same characters, it's impossible to not feel the prior films haunting the subsequent ones. As an example from Goodbye, Dragon Inn, the projectionist is played by Tsai's muse and lead in all of his prior features, and there's a beautiful, anxious anticipation to the movie when you've seen the prior films and can't help but fixate on when Lee Kang-sheng will appear.
Has anyone seen Lee Kang-sheng's pseudo-double bill that this began as a companion piece to? Is it thematically related in any way, or were they just pairing independent projects until Tsai's took on its own life?
Re: 146 / BD 35 Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:17 pm
by barbarella satyricon
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Re: 146 / BD 35 Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Posted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:46 pm
by dda1996a
The Hole is also my favorite Tsai and potentially one of my favorites ever - I would recommend all his other films, they are all amazing.
Other directors who are similar in some way -
Edward Yang is an obvious precursor (he is more Antonioni but his influence on Tsai is obvious), and also Hou Hsiao Hsien is an obvious Taiwanese cohort. I also liked very much Lee's film Help Me Eros and I so need to catch up on The Missing.
Other than them, I'd say most of the half comedic half tragic directors, starting from obviously Keaton and Tati but modernized in Elia Suleiman and Roy Anderson.
Other special directors who are somewhat similar are Apichatpong, Ceylan, Kaplanoglu.
And I always found Tsai to be the Yan to Kar Wai's Yang.
Re: 146 / BD 35 Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:49 am
by mteller
dda1996a wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:46 pm
The Hole is also my favorite Tsai and potentially one of my favorites ever - I would recommend all his other films, they are all amazing.
dda1996a wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:46 pmI also liked very much Lee's film Help Me Eros and I so need to catch up on The Missing.
Same for me on all of the above. The Hole is an all-time top 5 for me, but I do think watching Tsai's films in order is a good way to go.
Help Me Eros is kind of Tsai-lite. A lot of the same tics/techniques, but not quite as extreme and with more of a focus on narrative.
Re: 146 / BD 35 Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 12:33 pm
by dda1996a
Yes it's also not as good as Tsai but I liked it overall and it satisifes one's needs when you've rewatched all of Tsais film again

Re: 146 / BD 35 Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:10 pm
by T!me
Thanks everyone for your recommendations. Looks like some hard times are coming for my savings
dda1996a wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:46 pm
Edward Yang is an obvious precursor (he is more Antonioni but his influence on Tsai is obvious)
Being a great fan of Antonioni, I noticed what you said about Yang myself, so I am currently waiting for the perfect evening to watch A Brighter Summer Day.
and also Hou Hsiao Hsien is an obvious Taiwanese cohort
Where would you recommend me to start with him?
Other than them, I'd say most of the half comedic half tragic directors, starting from obviously Keaton and Tati but modernized in Elia Suleiman and Roy Anderson.
I've seen all Tatis and some Keatons and I can't say that I'm as big a fan as I'd like to be. They're fun, for sure, but except for maybe
mon oncle I unfortunately don't really feel their movies.
Other special directors who are somewhat similar are Apichatpong, Ceylan, Kaplanoglu.
And I always found Tsai to be the Yan to Kar Wai's Yang.
Thanks again for your lengthy recommendations.
An afterthought I had after I discussed the movie with a friend not that long ago is that I do really admire the way the film's lack of noise merges your viewing experience with the one of the film's characters. I can only imagine how this takes effect in a real theater with real people around you making real noise and thereby creating the movie's "soundscape" in the first place.
Re: 146 / BD 35 Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 7:19 pm
by Matt
T!me wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:10 pmI can only imagine how this takes effect in a real theater with real people around you making real noise and thereby creating the movie's "soundscape" in the first place.
I saw it in its original release in a theater on a rainy afternoon. It was quite an incredible, immersive experience.
Re: 146 / BD 35 Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:25 am
by senseabove
Nick Pinkerton has a monograph on this
just out from an Australian press (and Matt Zoller Seitz has put
a few signed copies up in his store—don't ask me why Seitz has a store?—if you're in the US and intl. shipping still gives you pause these days). Mine arrived this morning and I'm already about halfway through, and I'd say it's about as good as critical monographs with a personal angle get, so if you're a fan of either Tsai or Pinkerton, consider it highly recommended.