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Re: 1172 Two Films by Marguerite Duras
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:09 pm
by yoloswegmaster
The following extras have been added:
Newly discovered alternate English-language audio track, directed by Marguerite Duras
Program from 2020 on the making of India Song, featuring interviews with the cast and crew
Re: 1172 Two Films by Marguerite Duras
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:18 pm
by Red Screamer
yoloswegmaster wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:09 pm
Program from 2020 on the making of India Song, featuring interviews with the cast and crew
I assume this is the same one on the French disc, a nice addition.
Newly discovered alternate English-language audio track, directed by Marguerite Duras
But this is exciting! Given the importance of sound and text in Duras, this would really make the film a different experience.
Re: 1172 Two Films by Marguerite Duras
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:26 pm
by yoloswegmaster
Red Screamer wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:18 pm
Newly discovered alternate English-language audio track, directed by Marguerite Duras
But this is exciting! Given the importance of sound and text in Duras, this would really make the film a different experience.
Do you know if this has shown up on any of the other releases?
Re: 1172 Two Films by Marguerite Duras
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:55 pm
by Red Screamer
I don't know, it's not on the French blu. A brief internet search isn't bringing up much of anything about an English version of India Song (which is the film I assume the extra's referring to).
Re: 1172 Two Films by Marguerite Duras
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:47 am
by otis
Re: 1172 Two Films by Marguerite Duras
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:19 am
by dave1
I'm assuming
India Song here is just like the French blu, with a daytime shot during the nighttime section of the film
and a fade to black on one of the last shots
, outside of Technicolor's usual yellow push (admittedly, different from other labs).
Re: 1172 Two Films by Marguerite Duras
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 9:41 am
by Red Screamer
Can anyone who's picked up the release give some more information on the English version of India Song? The performers, quality of translation/performance, differences with the original soundtrack, and so on.
Re: 1172 Two Films by Marguerite Duras
Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:09 am
by therewillbeblus
zedz wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:14 pm
This release is really crying out for some academic extras.
India Song is an iconic feminist film as well as a formal Pandora's Box. So many things to say about this film, and so many people to say it.
Yes, this is such a rich film - one that I don’t feel comfortable beginning to unpack myself, but absolutely crave academic supplements to help me better appreciate it; a real shame Criterion skimped on creating even a subpar critical compendium. A novelistic experimental film like this feels like it should inherently invite complex, conflicting ideas and responses, but its esoteric tightrope-walk is tough to pull off without alienating its audience. Also, this also feels like an excellent version of what Peter Greenaway went on to try to do with aesthetics during at least part of his career.. but I also don’t feel stimulated by whatever Greenaway is doing with that, so maybe this impression deserves a side-eye emoji
Re: 1172 Two Films by Marguerite Duras
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:20 pm
by knives
Jumping a bit in for the desire on some exploratory extras. India Song as an experience was quite delightful, but I at first mistook it as more inline with Hiroshima, Mon Amour and was thrown off by all the French descended people in a movie I thought was about an ethnically Laotian refugee. Instead it reminded me of Reflections in a Golden Eye.
Re: 1172 Two Films by Marguerite Duras
Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 9:49 am
by olmo
therewillbeblus wrote: Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:09 am
zedz wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:14 pm
This release is really crying out for some academic extras.
India Song is an iconic feminist film as well as a formal Pandora's Box. So many things to say about this film, and so many people to say it.
Yes, this is such a rich film - one that I don’t feel comfortable beginning to unpack myself, but absolutely crave academic supplements to help me better appreciate it; a real shame Criterion skimped on creating even a subpar critical compendium. A novelistic experimental film like this feels like it should inherently invite complex, conflicting ideas and responses, but its esoteric tightrope-walk is tough to pull off without alienating its audience. Also, this also feels like an excellent version of what Peter Greenaway went on to try to do with aesthetics during at least part of his career.. but I also don’t feel stimulated by whatever Greenaway is doing with that, so maybe this impression deserves a side-eye emoji
For me it invoked Jancsó's Electra, My Love with the extended long takes and the disembodied voices of narration.
Like the character's communication via telepathy.
Re: 1172 Two Films by Marguerite Duras
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:30 pm
by knives
Baxter wasn’t as ecstatic an experience for me in part because it is so much more obscure. I think I finally got
The handle in the last forty minutes, but the beginning really only drew me in through the score which should have been terrible, but I found weirdly hypnotic.
Re: 1172 Two Films by Marguerite Duras
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2025 3:45 pm
by Red Screamer
I was enthralled by Baxter, Vera Baxter, though I think I’ll be enthralled by every Duras film at this point. She’s able to create a vast meditative space out of almost nothing where each and every filmmaking decision has an intense impact. She’s also quite good with actors, which might be hard to tell from India Song, but is on full display here in a way that reminded me of La musica, another very theatrical work set in a vacation town.
Not to harp on the point, but Son nom de Venise dans Calcutta désert would’ve indeed made a great third film in this release since they’re all haunted house movies with bold, conceptual uses of sound — I hasn’t read anything about Baxter, Vera Baxter beforehand so realizing what was going to happen on the soundtrack here was a delight — but also because one (at least?) shot is memorably used in both films. It’s also just a stunningly beautiful work, but I digress.