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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:08 pm
by Cosmic Bus
Looking excellent, and what a great cast! Impressed with how well all the Mamet newcomers appear to fit with the material.
Now, who's going to start the thread for the puzzling Mamet/Will Ferrell pic '
Joan of Bark'?

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:26 am
by emcflat
Official site has
this link to a Mamet article in Playboy about martial arts and UFC. Interesting read, as ever. Definitely hyped for this. C'mon April..
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 3:50 am
by Jeff
Dave is no longer a "
brain dead Liberal." I'm not sure what made him think he was ever a Liberal in the first place (I'm a playwright! I live in Vermont!). He has clearly never seen any of his own work.
P.S.: I'm a big fat Lib, and I love me some Dave Mamet.
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:02 am
by domino harvey
Even in his essays, Rebecca Pidgeon gets a role.
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:56 pm
by Antoine Doinel
I love ya Mamet, but you really need to read up on your Kennedy history a bit more.
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:29 pm
by tavernier
That "essay" was clearly a cheap ploy to get some more publicity for his current Broadway comedy,
November (which is funny, I must admit).
And here's some more cheap publicity: on the play's website, Mamet blogs regularly as the lead character, President Charles H.P. Smith.
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:57 pm
by Antoine Doinel
New
trailer. And, Robert Elswit shot this.
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:05 pm
by tavernier
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:37 pm
by kaujot
Both trailers are great. Am greatly anticipating this.
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:13 am
by Nothing
So where are all the bone-crunching Ultimate Fighting scenes?!

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:42 am
by kaujot
Something I noticed whilst watching both trailers again. They seem to present two entirely different movies.
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:01 am
by flyonthewall2983
kaujot wrote:Something I noticed whilst watching both trailers again. They seem to present two entirely different movies.
I noticed that as well. So does that mean I should buy two popcorns?
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:09 pm
by emcflat
Wow. Very VERY different trailer indeed. The thing is (

), I think people who saw the original trailer and know Mamet would have already expected it to have the layers of complexity it's trying to suggest here. It's still a fight movie. I hope.. Not sure who they're trying to win over here. Would be curious to know which one is going out in front of theatrical prints.
Glad to see David Paymer back with Mamet and getting a little love.
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:24 am
by Len
The new issue of GQ has a pretty funny interview with Mamet (actually, it's more like a profile of him). Couldn't find it online, but it's definitely worth a read.
Still really excited about Redbelt, the second trailer looks especially good. Hope the film does well enough to get an theatrical release here in a timely fashion, I'll flip out if I have to torrent this.
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 3:50 am
by The Elegant Dandy Fop
For Mamet junkies like myself,
David Mamet himself will be showing Redbelt April 17th at the Aero Theatre in Santa Monica, followed by a Q&A.
I'm going, without a doubt, will I see anyone else there?
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:36 pm
by Antoine Doinel
David Mamet's
film inspirations for 'Redbelt'
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:38 pm
by Fletch F. Fletch
GreenCine Daily
interviews Elejiofor.
Mamet's
article in the NY Times about his film.
Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 4:58 pm
by Fletch F. Fletch
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:53 pm
by Fletch F. Fletch
LA Times profile of Mamet/film:
David Mamet and the way of the 'Redbelt'
By Chris Lee, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
May 3, 2008
DAVID MAMET would prefer to avoid conflict, but he isn't above choking another man into unconsciousness. He knows where the body's pressure points are and how to use them. And although the Chicago transplant never sets out to "win" a fight, his aim, should he be drawn into one, is simple: Don't lose.
Turns out Mamet's got a purple belt in jiu-jitsu. Who knew?
Quite a bit of dojo wisdom came up in conversation one sunny morning outside Street Sports Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, the Santa Monica academy where the Pulitzer Prize winner has studied martial arts for the last seven years. Lately, the way of the warrior has been front of mind for Mamet on both professional and personal levels.
The writer-director's cerebral martial-arts potboiler, "Redbelt," reached theaters in New York and Los Angeles on Friday and will open wide across the country this coming Friday. The film follows a jiu-jitsu academy owner (Chiwetel Ejiofor) who obeys a strict samurai code of honor; the prize fight circuit is anathema to his sense of integrity -- never mind the current cultural tipping point at which mixed martial arts has become the fastest growing sport in the country.
However, when he gets sucked into a typically Mametian vortex of corruption, exploitation and deceit (Hollywood hard chargers and unscrupulous fight promoters are mostly to blame), the character must either suit up for a high-stakes cage fight at an Ultimate Fighting Championship-style event or fall short of his high moral ideals and face bankruptcy.
"The movie is my love letter to the world and philosophy of jiu-jitsu," Mamet said.
Tough-talking guys in emotionally fraught situations have long been subject matter A for the prolific pen-pusher behind such plays as "Speed-the-Plow" and "Glengarry Glen Ross" and screenplays including "The Verdict" and "Wag the Dog." But, until now, the art house hero has steered clear of fight films, racking up nine movie credits as a writer-director ("The Spanish Prisoner" and "State and Main" among them) in addition to his sideline as an author, essayist and contributing cartoonist to the Huffington Post.
Judging from pre-release excitement about "Redbelt" in mixed martial arts circles, Mamet's aesthete pedigree is doing him no disservice. And to hear it from several high-level jiu-jitsu practitioners, the 60-year-old indie auteur does more than simply understand the action sports metier. He can give as good as he gets when it comes to grappling, chokeholds and submission techniques.
"He's a tough guy," said Renato Magno, one of Brazilian jiu-jitsu's most respected practitioners and Mamet's instructor at Street Sports since 2001. "I think he uses jiu-jitsu very well. You're using your leverage, your balance -- you use your intellect. It's like a chess game. That's why he's enthusiastic. He's no young guy. But he has a lot of dedication to the sport."
Check out this arm block
Without Ed O'Neill, it's unlikely that Mamet -- who has also boxed, wrestled and dabbled in kung fu -- would have found his way into the world of arm bars and hip throws. That is to say, the actor best known for portraying Al Bundy on "Married . . . With Children" turned Mamet on not only to the sport when the writer-director moved to Los Angeles seven years ago but also to Street Sports, which is just blocks from Mamet's office.
"David wanted me to do 'The Spanish Prisoner' in New York, and when I was there, I demonstrated a choke, an arm block," O'Neill recalled. "When he moved out here, it was in the back of his mind."
"It looked interesting. Like a fun thing to do," is all Mamet will divulge about his initial interest.
In March, O'Neill earned his black belt in jiu-jitsu after 15 years of training at Gracie Jiu-Jitsu Academy -- owned and operated by the dynastic Brazilian family credited with founding the sport, popularizing it in this country and co-creating the UFC -- becoming one of only five Americans to have been awarded the school's highest ranking.
As someone at the top of his game who happens to have been in Mamet's plays and movies since 1980 -- and who will appear in a run of Mamet's one-act farce "Keep Your Pantheon," scheduled to run alongside his short play "The Duck Variations" beginning May 18 at Culver City's Kirk Douglas Theatre -- O'Neill offered a sober appraisal of the playwright's skill set.
"Dave is a very game, pugnacious guy. You would be hard-pressed if he got ahold of you," O'Neill said. "Good tendon strength. He's been rumored to be smart, so he can apply the techniques of jiu-jitsu properly. He immerses himself in it. He's passionate about it. He goes 100%. And I know from talking to some of the guys he's rolled with, it's no day at the beach."
Giver of noogies
Nonetheless, when Mamet dropped by Street Sports recently, he was greeted warmly by several students -- tough guys with buzz cuts and black belts to whom he proceeded to give friendly noogies on sight. Fittingly enough, the school's wider community had everything to do with the content, narrative verisimilitude and casting of "Redbelt."
"Over the last years, David said to me, 'Let's do a movie about Brazilian jiu-jitsu,' " Magno recalled (Brazilian jiu-jitsu is a separate and distinct martial art from its Japanese forebear, jujitsu). "So we'd meet up every Friday, talk about it at lunch. We went to see some tournaments, grappling competitions. I tried to give him the raw material."
Also, through his connections at Street Sports and Magno's introductions, Mamet was able to enlist a who's who of mixed martial arts and boxing luminaries in supporting roles. Three-time UFC heavyweight champion Randy Couture has a role as a commentator; former WBA lightweight champ Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini plays a movie stunt coordinator, and John Machado, a multiple world jiu-jitsu titleholder, appears as the Brazilian champion Ejiofor's character must square off against in the film's climactic battle.
Mamet credits Magno, who served as a technical consultant on "Redbelt," with inspiring him. "Much of it is a homage to Renato and the people he introduced me to," he said. "A lot of them, guys from Brazil like John Machado, Rorian and Rickson Gracie, they understand jiu-jitsu as a spiritual discipline. It's a way of looking at life."
Even though mixed martial arts has reached a kind of cultural apogee lately -- with televised bouts scheduled to appear on CBS and reality television shows about the sport regularly airing on Spike TV and Black Entertainment Television, as well as a spate of theatrical films, including "Never Back Down" and "Flash Point" -- Mamet said nothing other than personal enthusiasm and kismet had factored into his making "Redbelt."
"It takes a long time to do a movie," he said. "And to have it synergistically mesh with something that's going on in the world, it's an accident. I did that with 'Wag the Dog.' Exactly the same thing going on with the Monica Lewinsky scandal was in the movie."
Mamet surveyed the practice facility's padded walls and floors. "The guys who train here are real fighters," he said. "Cops and Navy SEALS, stuntmen and bouncers. They come to learn skills in the real world.
"Why do a movie about this? There's no real answer. One's choices are not the result of intellectualization. It's the result of inspiration."
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 4:16 pm
by HerrSchreck
What impressed me most is that Tim Allen seems to fit the role perfectly. It doesn't feel like stunt casting at all.
Tim Allen is not a dwink. The dude knows the Heavier side of life, having done time-- he's a convict-- for dealing C in his early years.
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 4:39 pm
by Jeff
HerrSchreck wrote:What impressed me most is that Tim Allen seems to fit the role perfectly. It doesn't feel like stunt casting at all.
Tim Allen is not a dwink. The dude knows the Heavier side of life, having done time-- he's a convict-- for dealing C in his early years.
I've always admired Mamet's ability to see actors outside of their typical boxes (see also: Ed O'Neil, Steve Martin). His show may have been profoundly stupid, but Allen does have a certain gravitas, and it sounds like it has been put to good use here.

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:42 am
by HerrSchreck
God.. looking again at these photos reminds me so much of Chuck Negron's 70's descent into junk addiction and arrest-- same 70's-looking mugshot, with the same narrowish face and bushy 'stache.
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 2:28 am
by bjeggert82
That article claims
Bad Day at Black Rock was directed by Raoul Walsh, when it was made by John Sturges.
Try doing to a little research...
Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 6:08 am
by Grand Illusion
Pretty disappointing.
I was very much looking forward to this as it's a marriage of two of my interests, David Mamet films and Mixed Martial Arts.
It's not the "twists" that are so bad. The end is just absurd. The lead takes a very bold action made absurd by its lack of consequences and lack of realism. The ensuing action makes little sense, and then the reaction to it is even more unmotivated. Think the end of The Last Samurai, but more outlandish on a smaller scale.
The hard-edged characters are done better in other Mamet films, and the dialogue seems like it was taken from his rejected notebooks.
The good is that Chiwetel Ejiofor is completely believable and riveting. The plot lines with his family and the cop are interesting, but unfortunately they don't fully develop.
The following has nothing to do with how good the film is because it's too technical for the average viewer, but the final fight scene plays out way too much like a regular fight scene in a Hollywood movie. The whole film stresses jiu jitsu, specifically Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, and the climactic battle misses the very basics. Mamet's a purple belt in jiu jitsu, so I'm sure he knows. It's just that filming kickboxing and showy judo throws is more exciting than jiu jitsu which is slow and intellectual.
Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 6:27 pm
by Cronenfly
I shudder to think what this movie would've been without Ejiofor; he's the only thing that keeps it even somewhat tied together, and this is the first movie that has me convinced he's going to be a star.
Allen is fine, but he's not as well-used as Steve Martin in The Spanish Prisoner: Martin's slightly smarmy charm was perfect for that role, and I guess Allen's debauched past is too for his part as a hard living movie star, but he really has very little to do (whereas Martin is central to Prisoner, to the point where the movie is hard to imagine without him in the role, despite his similarly limited screen time).
The ending is bollocks, and the movie indeed feels like a draft for some of Mamet's more sharply constructed works. Even Mamet's usually sterling regulars Jay (in some pretty bad makeup-lay off the eye shadow, man) and Mantegna can't spark the proceedings.
I was interested to see that some songs in the film were written by Mamet and Pidgeon (and at least a few in Portuguese, no less) as well as performed by the latter (not too embarassingly, either).