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Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:43 pm
by nick
I received my set a couple days ago and popped each disc in just to verify quality; I can attest that the quality of the other films are just as good as Prenom: Carmen.

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:02 pm
by Jean-Luc Garbo
I watched Detective and Helas Pour Moi last night and they are as good as Carmen - like nick said.

Audio problem with Passion

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 6:42 pm
by Der Müde Tod
I watched Passion last night, and there seems to be a synching problem at two points: the first at about 14'20'', the second a little after 26''. The moving lips do not correspond to the spoken audio (sometimes, the lips move without sound, sometimes there is conflicting sound). The subtitles are in synch with the sound. I realize that in this film the voices very often come from the off, but I doubt very much this effect is on purpose.

Could somebody with another version of the film check their version against the Lionsgate disk?

Re: Audio problem with Passion

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:27 pm
by Oedipax
Der Müde Tod wrote:I watched Passion last night, and there seems to be a synching problem at two points: the first at about 14'20'', the second a little after 26''. The moving lips do not correspond to the spoken audio (sometimes, the lips move without sound, sometimes there is conflicting sound). The subtitles are in synch with the sound. I realize that in this film the voices very often come from the off, but I doubt very much this effect is on purpose.

Could somebody with another version of the film check their version against the Lionsgate disk?
It's intentional. It's there on the Cahiers du Cinema DVD as well, and I've read about it in more depth in at least one essay or book. Definitely one of Godard's strangest experiments with sound - Nouvelle vague is much more successful in that regard.

Re: Audio problem with Passion

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:44 pm
by Cronenfly
Oedipax wrote:
Der Müde Tod wrote:I watched Passion last night, and there seems to be a synching problem at two points: the first at about 14'20'', the second a little after 26''. The moving lips do not correspond to the spoken audio (sometimes, the lips move without sound, sometimes there is conflicting sound). The subtitles are in synch with the sound. I realize that in this film the voices very often come from the off, but I doubt very much this effect is on purpose.

Could somebody with another version of the film check their version against the Lionsgate disk?
It's intentional. It's there on the Cahiers du Cinema DVD as well, and I've read about it in more depth in at least one essay or book. Definitely one of Godard's strangest experiments with sound - Nouvelle vague is much more successful in that regard.
It must be a bitch supervising the A/V on transfers for Godard's movies (especially the later ones)...

Re: Audio problem with Passion

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:48 pm
by Oedipax
Cronenfly wrote:It must be a bitch supervising the A/V on transfers for Godard's movies (especially the later ones)...
Indeed. He's certainly not going to supervise things, either. I remember the R1 DVD of Weekend from New Yorker "corrected" a shot where the film rolls vertically in the frame, leaving the bottom of the frame offset into the top of the frame for a few seconds (it's the car crash/Hermès handbag sequence). It was preserved on the R2 from Artificial Eye at least!

Re: Audio problem with Passion

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 8:52 pm
by Der Müde Tod
Oedipax wrote:It's intentional. It's there on the Cahiers du Cinema DVD as well, and I've read about it in more depth in at least one essay or book. Definitely one of Godard's strangest experiments with sound - Nouvelle vague is much more successful in that regard.
Thanks for clarifying this. I must say I have never paid so much attention to an audio track during the first viewing of a film like for this one after I stumbled across this "glitch". It was definitely worth it, because the track is extremely fascinating (regardless of the "glitches").

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:56 pm
by jbeall
Dave Kehr Critic's Choice: New DVDs

It's a nice essay comparing Pierrot Le Fou to Passion and giving some context to Godard's career.