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Re: Michael Mann
Posted: Wed May 13, 2026 3:26 pm
by Stefan Andersson
Manhunter Final Cut, 4K, 120 mins:
"we’ve carefully remastered the film to vividly deliver all the mood and intensity of those images – all heightened with 5.1 surround sound audio sourced from the original 35mm masters."
https://britishcinematographer.co.uk/ac ... rogrammes/
https://www.academymuseum.org/programs/ ... 38732fe7b0
Re: Michael Mann
Posted: Wed May 13, 2026 5:05 pm
by Zot!
So for those keeping score...we've got the Theatrical Cut (120 mins), the Director's Cut (124 mins), the Director's Restored Edition (124 mins), and now this "Final" Cut (120 mins). I don't know what Mann is still futzing about with, but I hope we might still get the Theatrical in 4K included on a disc and close the book on this. He's spent decades messing around with extra footage sourced from VHS tapes (If I remember correctly it even has the Time Code burned in). Why doesn't he try to re-edit one of his shitty movies instead, this one was already great.
Re: Michael Mann
Posted: Wed May 13, 2026 6:56 pm
by beamish14
Zot! wrote: Wed May 13, 2026 5:05 pm
So for those keeping score...we've got the Theatrical Cut (120 mins), the Director's Cut (124 mins), the Director's Restored Edition (124 mins), and now this "Final" Cut (120 mins). I don't know what Mann is still futzing about with, but I hope we might still get the Theatrical in 4K included on a disc and close the book on this. He's spent decades messing around with extra footage sourced from VHS tapes (If I remember correctly it even has the Time Code burned in). Why doesn't he try to re-edit one of his shitty movies instead, this one was already great.
I truly detest the Director’s Cut. The climactic shoot-out is impossible to follow with the cuts he made, and it removes a really beautiful shot of Graham going into an elevator in his Atlanta hotel
Re: Michael Mann
Posted: Thu May 14, 2026 11:57 pm
by chrisandy007
Zot! wrote: Wed May 13, 2026 5:05 pm
So for those keeping score...we've got the Theatrical Cut (120 mins), the Director's Cut (124 mins), the Director's Restored Edition (124 mins), and now this "Final" Cut (120 mins). I don't know what Mann is still futzing about with, but I hope we might still get the Theatrical in 4K included on a disc and close the book on this. He's spent decades messing around with extra footage sourced from VHS tapes (If I remember correctly it even has the Time Code burned in). Why doesn't he try to re-edit one of his shitty movies instead, this one was already great.
Completely missed these details - thank you for sharing.
Re: Michael Mann
Posted: Fri May 15, 2026 3:00 am
by Finch
Is there any Director's Cut of Mann's that is preferred to the theatrical, outside of Blackhat?
Re: Michael Mann
Posted: Fri May 15, 2026 4:18 am
by beamish14
Finch wrote: Fri May 15, 2026 3:00 am
Is there any Director's Cut of Mann's that is preferred to the theatrical, outside of Blackhat?
Maybe
Ali, but the theatrical cut is fantastic.
Speaking of said film, it’s bizarre that the wonderful score never got a commercial release
Re: Michael Mann
Posted: Tue May 19, 2026 3:04 am
by flyonthewall2983
The issue of his soundtracks almost mirrors some of the stuff about home video releases. The Heat soundtrack emphasizes the needle drops mixed in with some of Elliot Goldenthal’s major themes, but his entire score for it has never been released officially. The end titles he composed for it was repurposed for the following years Michael Collins.
The soundtracks for the films he did after this up to Public Enemies tended to follow in the same way, causing some disappointment certain cues were missing. Ironically one of the motifs in Public Enemies was the cue set to the climax of Heat, a sparse but tense string melody.
Re: Michael Mann
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2026 7:16 pm
by Stefan Andersson
chrisandy007 wrote: Thu May 14, 2026 11:57 pm
Zot! wrote: Wed May 13, 2026 5:05 pm
So for those keeping score...we've got the Theatrical Cut (120 mins), the Director's Cut (124 mins), the Director's Restored Edition (124 mins), and now this "Final" Cut (120 mins). I don't know what Mann is still futzing about with, but I hope we might still get the Theatrical in 4K included on a disc and close the book on this. He's spent decades messing around with extra footage sourced from VHS tapes (If I remember correctly it even has the Time Code burned in). Why doesn't he try to re-edit one of his shitty movies instead, this one was already great.
Completely missed these details - thank you for sharing.
More details on Manhunter Final Cut:
https://www.indiewire.com/news/general- ... 235199202/
Comment from 2023 which might be about the Final Cut:
"Mann said in a Q&A there have been a few versions of this film and he’s working on a new one. They’re doing the remastering now and he’s going to add in some scenes he took out including the DC ending of Graham visiting the potential next victims, as well as other scenes of Graham talking about the mentality of his prey."
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php? ... stcount=79
Re: Michael Mann
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2026 8:53 pm
by ford
Stefan Andersson wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2026 7:16 pm
chrisandy007 wrote: Thu May 14, 2026 11:57 pm
Zot! wrote: Wed May 13, 2026 5:05 pm
So for those keeping score...we've got the Theatrical Cut (120 mins), the Director's Cut (124 mins), the Director's Restored Edition (124 mins), and now this "Final" Cut (120 mins). I don't know what Mann is still futzing about with, but I hope we might still get the Theatrical in 4K included on a disc and close the book on this. He's spent decades messing around with extra footage sourced from VHS tapes (If I remember correctly it even has the Time Code burned in). Why doesn't he try to re-edit one of his shitty movies instead, this one was already great.
Completely missed these details - thank you for sharing.
More details on Manhunter Final Cut:
https://www.indiewire.com/news/general- ... 235199202/
Comment from 2023 which might be about the Final Cut:
"Mann said in a Q&A there have been a few versions of this film and he’s working on a new one. They’re doing the remastering now and he’s going to add in some scenes he took out including the DC ending of Graham visiting the potential next victims, as well as other scenes of Graham talking about the mentality of his prey."
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php? ... stcount=79
The Indiewire article mentions it'll be using "a few shots from an interpositive." Did they find a better source for that original ending or something? Better than the VHS source used for the DC that is.
Re: Michael Mann
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2026 9:50 pm
by beamish14
ford wrote: Tue Jun 09, 2026 8:53 pm
The Indiewire article mentions it'll be using "a few shots from an interpositive." Did they find a better source for that original ending or something? Better than the VHS source used for the DC that is.
Knowing Mann, it wouldn’t surprise me if he used some AI-assisted upscaling from a poor source. Insane to keep tinkering with something that was just about perfect in 1986
As a sort-of aside, I’ve been thinking about Kim Greist. Did Mann like working with her? She seemed to be on the cusp of getting big in the mid-80’s, but things died after
Homeward Bound ‘93 and that Sinbad/Phil Hartmann comedy
Re: Michael Mann
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2026 12:43 pm
by pistolwink
At this point I just assume any new "director's cut" of one of Mann's films is garbage.
Re: Michael Mann
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2026 7:43 pm
by Finch
A few Letterboxd reviews from the LA premiere + Mann Q&A have confirmed that he's altered the grade for a more contemporary look. Some Lecktor and Atlanta PD scenes are extended and the scene of Graham visiting the family that would have been Dellarhyde's next victims has been added back in.
Re: Michael Mann
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2026 11:35 pm
by beamish14
Finch wrote: Sat Jun 13, 2026 7:43 pm
A few Letterboxd reviews from the LA premiere + Mann Q&A have confirmed that he's altered the grade for a more contemporary look. Some Lecktor and Atlanta PD scenes are extended and the scene of Graham visiting the family that would have been Dellarhyde's next victims has been added back in.
What a way to piss on perfection. I cannot stand him