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Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:17 am
by Adam
The Brakhage leads me to believe that I will finally buy a Blu-Ray player. Now to figure out which one...

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:10 am
by Flike
godardslave wrote: I also agree and think the stagecoach cover is awful.
The color choices, especially, are horrible and clash.
Once i had got over my shock, my mind went immediately to flashback to the "pink Viridiana travesty".
... #-o . It's perfect "pop Western". Think Red Ryder BB guns, wind-up toys...

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:32 am
by mfunk9786
Flike wrote:
godardslave wrote: I also agree and think the stagecoach cover is awful.
The color choices, especially, are horrible and clash.
Once i had got over my shock, my mind went immediately to flashback to the "pink Viridiana travesty".
... #-o . It's perfect "pop Western". Think Red Ryder BB guns, wind-up toys...
That's exactly what I like so much about it too. Godardslave, are you trying to become the Armond White of Criterion coverart ratings? :wink:

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:33 am
by domino harvey
He's halfway there by invoking a much older work as being superior

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:35 am
by Mikos Stenopolis
Although I don't mind the pop art style that Skillman sometimes chooses for covers sometimes they're just not that good looking. In this case Stagecoach. Could have been the same style just a different image. I was floored by Walkabout this morning but now I'm indifferent to it. The Brakhage set is great I really wish they would slap the SD's of both volumes into the box that the blu has because it's one of the best covers I've seen.

But most of all the Oshima set is a must buy looks perfect

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:40 am
by godardslave
mfunk9786 wrote:
Flike wrote:
godardslave wrote: I also agree and think the stagecoach cover is awful.
The color choices, especially, are horrible and clash.
Once i had got over my shock, my mind went immediately to flashback to the "pink Viridiana travesty".
... #-o . It's perfect "pop Western". Think Red Ryder BB guns, wind-up toys...
That's exactly what I like so much about it too. Godardslave, are you trying to become the Armond White of Criterion coverart ratings? :wink:
Armond white is my hero, not really! :) [-X
Criterion have taken the majestic natural beauty of Monument valley that Ford loved so much...and turned it into a bright florescent green and orange sky that looks like something from Mars, apart from that its great! [-X
Mikos Stenopolis wrote:Although I don't mind the pop art style that Skillman sometimes chooses for covers sometimes they're just not that good looking. In this case Stagecoach.
Agreed. Skillman is obsessed with Warhol/Pop Art.
And why not? Good for him. It makes him lots of money and Criterion obviously like him.
But frankly, the covers suck. I am just glad he didn't get the Ugetsu cover. :-"

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:56 am
by Alphonse Doinel
Brian C wrote:My problem with the Stagecoach cover is the obvious edge enhancement where the mountains meet the sky. Obviously it's a sign that Criterion has butchered the transfer and that this will be one of their worst releases ever.

Actually, I think it looks just fine...
This actually looks intentional. The mountains are embossed and the wacky c is debossed. Looks like he went for a letterpressed look or something. I have a feeling this will be far more impressive printed. Would make a nice digi.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:06 am
by Amazing Goose
and now i'm really hoping that the b&n sale will be late in may..... [-o<

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:50 am
by NilbogSavant
domino harvey wrote:
HistoryProf wrote:
mteller wrote:
I take it you didn't buy the Martha Graham set then.

...did anyone?
:lol:

I most certainly did not. I come across that ever once in a while in stores or on-line and always think "what the hell is this? when did that get released?" I wonder how much of those they sold.
I remember Gary Tooze citing his refusal to give the set a review proof of how he isn't indebted to labels who send him discs to review. :roll: It's probably the best set that no one has actually watched
Agreed. It's even more depressing that nobody picked it up considering that it contains the only Alexander Hammid film available besides Meshes of the Afternoon.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:58 am
by hammock
NilbogSavant wrote:
domino harvey wrote:
HistoryProf wrote: :lol:

I most certainly did not. I come across that ever once in a while in stores or on-line and always think "what the hell is this? when did that get released?" I wonder how much of those they sold.
I remember Gary Tooze citing his refusal to give the set a review proof of how he isn't indebted to labels who send him discs to review. :roll: It's probably the best set that no one has actually watched
Agreed. It's even more depressing that nobody picked it up considering that it contains the only Alexander Hammid film available besides Meshes of the Afternoon.
I picked it up. I'm a big fellow (ex body builder) and never had any interest in dance, but i did enjoy this release and I even dare to say that I will return to it for a second view in a near future now that I have been reminded about it. These odd releases are why I love Criterion, they open my eyes to another world and I blind buy titles like these putting my trust in Criterion. The Flamingo trilogy was another huge suprise to me. It's now one of my top ranked experiences on film and I look forward to more suprises.

PS: The body builder info was only to emphasize that I'm speaking the truth about me not dancing. When is the last time you saw a body builder dancing?

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:23 pm
by domino harvey
hammock wrote: When is the last time you saw a body builder dancing?
Image

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:44 pm
by SoyCuba
hammock wrote:When is the last time you saw a body builder dancing?
link

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:42 pm
by s.j. bagley
domino harvey wrote:It's probably the best set that no one has actually watched
ayup.
and i actually find it to be one my favourite releases from criterion.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:35 pm
by HistoryProf
SoyCuba wrote:
hammock wrote:When is the last time you saw a body builder dancing?
link
I thought you were going here...

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:46 pm
by mteller
NilbogSavant wrote:It's even more depressing that nobody picked it up considering that it contains the only Alexander Hammid film available besides Meshes of the Afternoon.
And The Private Life of a Cat. Which is way better than Meshes IMO, but I can't stand Deren.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:03 pm
by cdnchris

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:31 am
by Gregory
mteller wrote:
NilbogSavant wrote:It's even more depressing that nobody picked it up considering that it contains the only Alexander Hammid film available besides Meshes of the Afternoon.
And The Private Life of a Cat. Which is way better than Meshes IMO, but I can't stand Deren.
They both worked on both films (not that I'm arguing equal authorship). Anyway, still more of his work is available on DVD. I posted a list not long ago in one of the avant-garde threads should anyone care to hunt.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:39 am
by HistoryProf
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Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:14 am
by HistoryProf
Does anyone know if it's possible to buy the clear cases Criterion now uses? I've bought a few used that have various flaws and while it's not a big deal, I would like to replace them if I can with new ones. shit happens, as they say, and I have a couple that have also suffered different fates due to child/wife/pet abuse. I've looked at the usual suspects for buying cases in general, but want to make sure they are genuinely the same brand/type that CC uses. (sorry if this is the wrong place for this...was the closest topic I could think of...)

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 12:52 pm
by ccfixx
HistoryProf wrote:Does anyone know if it's possible to buy the clear cases Criterion now uses?
Of course, you can... for the blu-ray cases. All of that information can be found on the criterionforum.org homepage under the header Replacement Blu-ray Cases. But, if you're looking for the DVD cases, I'm sure Criterion has those lying around, as well. I would think that you'd only have to contact Jon Mulvaney to get some for a nominal fee.

CC

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:27 pm
by Bryant Frazer
Gregory wrote: They both worked on both films (not that I'm arguing equal authorship).
Stan Brakhage had a theory that "The Private Life of a Cat" was more Maya Deren's film and "Meshes of the Afternoon" was more Hammid's. It startled me to hear him say that, given how closely "Meshes" had been associated with my image of Deren, and I don't remember him making an especially concrete argument, but whenever I think of Deren and Hammid I wonder about this. I don't know if it was much more than a hunch on his part, but of course he knew Deren well.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:49 pm
by swo17
HistoryProf wrote:Does anyone know if it's possible to buy the clear cases Criterion now uses? I've bought a few used that have various flaws and while it's not a big deal, I would like to replace them if I can with new ones. shit happens, as they say, and I have a couple that have also suffered different fates due to child/wife/pet abuse. I've looked at the usual suspects for buying cases in general, but want to make sure they are genuinely the same brand/type that CC uses. (sorry if this is the wrong place for this...was the closest topic I could think of...)
I assume you're just looking for empty Scanavo cases, not the $5 replacement cases that include cover sleeves. The last time I asked, Criterion did not replace DVD cases, but I would think they might have a different policy in place for the Blu-ray cases since they are custom made. I would suggest emailing Mulvaney about this. Just make sure you spell out that you want empty cases.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:39 pm
by dadaistnun
Bryant Frazer wrote:
Gregory wrote: They both worked on both films (not that I'm arguing equal authorship).
Stan Brakhage had a theory that "The Private Life of a Cat" was more Maya Deren's film and "Meshes of the Afternoon" was more Hammid's. It startled me to hear him say that, given how closely "Meshes" had been associated with my image of Deren, and I don't remember him making an especially concrete argument, but whenever I think of Deren and Hammid I wonder about this. I don't know if it was much more than a hunch on his part, but of course he knew Deren well.
It's been years since I last read it, but I think Brakhage addresses the authorship of Meshes in Film at Wit's End, saying that At Land was much more her film alone.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:28 pm
by Markson
Does anyone know when and why the cover to Le Jour Se Leve changed? I picked it up during the recent StudioCanal OOP panic and my copy's artwork differs from that posted on the CC website. Instead of the kiss, mine has a leather-jacketed Gabin pointing a pistol at his chest.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:23 am
by fdm
Markson wrote:Does anyone know when and why the cover to Le Jour Se Leve changed? I picked it up during the recent StudioCanal OOP panic and my copy's artwork differs from that posted on the CC website. Instead of the kiss, mine has a leather-jacketed Gabin pointing a pistol at his chest.
Think that's the original cover for it. (The copies I've seen all had that cover.) The kiss is on the booklet's cover.