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Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:19 pm**

hearthesilence wrote:Honestly, I hope these remain available separately if they get an upgrade by Criterion. "Green Room" and "Wild Child" I would probably get, but not if I have to get the other five on top of them.

Sticking them all in one big box would make no sense for Criterion. Truffaut is still a relatively big name, a number of the films are big enough in their own right, feature recognizable stars (Deneuve, Moreau, Adjani, Belmondo) and / or have decent marketing hooks (Hitchcockian thriller, Kids Do the Darnedest Things, Oscar nominated lead). There's nothing to link these films together beyond "here's a bunch of Truffaut films that all fell into our lap at the same time!"

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:13 pm**

zedz wrote:
hearthesilence wrote:Honestly, I hope these remain available separately if they get an upgrade by Criterion. "Green Room" and "Wild Child" I would probably get, but not if I have to get the other five on top of them.
Sticking them all in one big box would make no sense for Criterion. Truffaut is still a relatively big name, a number of the films are big enough in their own right, feature recognizable stars (Deneuve, Moreau, Adjani, Belmondo) and / or have decent marketing hooks (Hitchcockian thriller, Kids Do the Darnedest Things, Oscar nominated lead). There's nothing to link these films together beyond "here's a bunch of Truffaut films that all fell into our lap at the same time!"

I am not sure I understand that argument. What is common across the Fassbinder films that went in the Arrow box except (1) those were the ones they had rights for, (2) suitable materials were available for blu rays for those films, and (3) Fassbinder is an important director? The same three factors hold for a collection of Truffauts Criterion can get hold of. It seems that strategically Criterion release their collections individually, spread out over years, whereas Arrow seem to go for big boxes. I personally prefer the latter because I am tired of waiting for the remaining Chaplins and Rays and Bergmans and Ozus and Kurosawas for years and years from Criterion. I think first releasing a box, and following it up with (some or all) individual releases is a strategy that perhaps best meets the needs of a variety of consumers. This is just my view. Others may have their own.

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:24 pm**

While I would prefer also a boxset rather than spreading 5 movies over a 10 years period, I also do think that Truffaut movies have a sale potential so high within the collection that it would make no sense not to release them individually. Also, all the previous Truffauts were released individually, so what would be the theme to suddenly do a set now ?

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:26 pm**

Though given that Criterion has sat on several of the Truffauts we know they have for years upon years, perhaps they are prepping a huge Truffaut box

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:35 pm**

Spine #1000 - A Whole Lot of Truffaut

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:43 pm**

Random aside: I was watching "The Chase" the other day and Mark Labbett didn't know who had directed The 400 Blows.

Posted: **Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:46 pm**

kekid wrote:
zedz wrote:
hearthesilence wrote:Honestly, I hope these remain available separately if they get an upgrade by Criterion. "Green Room" and "Wild Child" I would probably get, but not if I have to get the other five on top of them.
Sticking them all in one big box would make no sense for Criterion. Truffaut is still a relatively big name, a number of the films are big enough in their own right, feature recognizable stars (Deneuve, Moreau, Adjani, Belmondo) and / or have decent marketing hooks (Hitchcockian thriller, Kids Do the Darnedest Things, Oscar nominated lead). There's nothing to link these films together beyond "here's a bunch of Truffaut films that all fell into our lap at the same time!"
I am not sure I understand that argument. What is common across the Fassbinder films that went in the Arrow box except (1) those were the ones they had rights for, (2) suitable materials were available for blu rays for those films, and (3) Fassbinder is an important director? The same three factors hold for a collection of Truffauts Criterion can get hold of. It seems that strategically Criterion release their collections individually, spread out over years, whereas Arrow seem to go for big boxes. I personally prefer the latter because I am tired of waiting for the remaining Chaplins and Rays and Bergmans and Ozus and Kurosawas for years and years from Criterion. I think first releasing a box, and following it up with (some or all) individual releases is a strategy that perhaps best meets the needs of a variety of consumers. This is just my view. Others may have their own.

Sorry, I missed when the Arrow Fassbinder box was released by Criterion, which is what I thought we were talking about.

Posted: **Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:31 am**

I assume that the rights for these films would revert to production company Les Films du Carrosse, likely controlled by Truffaut's estate and not by one of the big French distributors. It's possible these could go to Janus/Criterion, but if a different French distributor buys the library, they may find another home. The only other company I can think that would license these for the long haul is Cohen Media Group. Otherwise, Janus is the go-to for foreign-language films looking for a forever home. If they're licensed piecemeal, Janus may only bother if new masters are created at the same time.

Posted: **Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:26 pm**

Swamp Water and The Bride Wore Black are now both sold out.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:22 am**

May/June releases

THE MAN IN THE MOON (1991) BLU-RAY - May 16th

WHO’LL STOP THE RAIN (1978) BLU-RAY - May 16th

INFERNO 3D (1953) BLU-RAY - May 16th

THE STONE KILLER (1973) BLU-RAY - May 16th

BRUTAL TALES OF CHIVALRY (aka SHOWA ZANKYO DEN, 1965) BLU-RAY - May 16th

THE BRIDGE AT REMAGEN (1969) BLU-RAY - June 13th

THE QUIET AMERICAN (1958) BLU-RAY - June 13th

HELL AND HIGH WATER (1954) BLU-RAY - June 13th

THE VALACHI PAPERS (1972) BLU-RAY - June 13th

SNAKE IN THE EAGLE’S SHADOW (1978) / DRUNKEN MASTER (1978) BLU-RAY - June 13th

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:38 am**

So, a bunch of third tier movies that Olive would have put out, cool

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:49 am**

domino harvey wrote:So, a bunch of third tier movies that Olive would have put out, cool

Don't know any movie and since I have a limited budget, nothing for me.

let's see:
Disappointed by the recent announcements of Eureka, Criterion, Arrow video, Twilight Time. (doesn't really matter because I'm way behind my Bluray purchases)
Now looking forward to Arrow Academy!

(Plague Dogs! Plague Dogs! Plague Dogs! Plague Dogs!

)

I know, I'm difficult, but I buy the absolute necessary now.
Currently unemployed Greek living in Greece right now, so I guess you get the idea!

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:27 pm**

domino harvey wrote:So, a bunch of third tier movies that Olive would have put out, cool

Now, now, those are Redman's dream releases.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:14 pm**

the most exciting title of the bunch if the best of Sam Fuller's worst films.

Posted: **Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:15 pm**

If you like either of the respective genres, I think the releases of Brutal Tales of Chivalry and the Yuen Woo-ping/Jackie Chan titles are pretty exciting. I'll probably go for the MoC release of the later two (assuming they are releasing Snake) but unless Arrow is going to release the eight Brutal Tales films in a box, I'm absolutely going to pick this first one from TT.

Posted: **Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:26 pm**

I'm surprised you folks are so cool on the very solid Who'll Stop the Rain, but there wasn't a whole lot of enthusiasm for Reisz's The French Leiutenant's Woman, either.
More Tuesday Weld in HD is always a good thing.

Man in the Moon is nice, too. Not top-tier Mulligan, and a bit melodramatic, but it's anchored by some really great performances.

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:08 am**

HELL AND HIGH WATER is a magnificently composed film ('Scope, natch), and I'm excited to see it coming out (though reports that it is not among Fuller's most successful works—in terms of drama, anyway—are indeed accurate.) SNAKE and DRUNKEN are both treasures, too, though I suspect their gang of converts have mostly been found already.

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:19 am**

Hell and High Water is the only Fuller film I've seen and chose not to own. (I've not seen Shark or the post-White Dog films.) I'll wager it's because Fuller wrote from an already existing script that it's fairly conventional and somewhat of a dud. There are a couple of suspenseful moments on the submarine and a few injected doses of war realism in a couple of places, but overall it's fairly feeble and not comparable to the usual quality of his films.

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2017 5:27 am**

Hell and High Water would be a hard pause at $11 from Kino Lorber. At $30, it's an easy pass. Plus, a Fox Fuller title that's HD ready? Wake me when MOC puts it out in a few months and I'll reconsider

Posted: **Mon Feb 20, 2017 6:30 pm**

I will eventually pick up Inferno as I am committed to supporting 50s 3D, even though I've been able to see this one already, and it's only really good in the last 20-25 minutes, IMO.

I haven't seen any of the other films, so on the TT watch list they go. I'll probably start with the Jackie Chan films as they seem the most likely to sell out due to a dedicated fan base.

Posted: **Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:40 am**

Received my copy of Chilly Scenes of Winter here in the UK this week, haven't viewed the film since chancing upon it via a satellite channel during a sick day in the mid 90's.

Heard's performance makes the film, understated, heartfelt and genuinely likeable as Charles, the lovelorn Salt lake City civil servant. Mary Beth Hurt also worth a mention, like Lisa Eichorn in a film around the same time, Cutter's Way aka Cutter & Bone, I struggle to think why these weren't breakout performances for them both, and why their careers somewhat floundered in film post late 70's / early 80's.

Great supporting cast; Kenneth Macmillan, Peter Reigert, Nora Heflin and the wonderful Gloria Grahame round out a film that went pretty much under the radar *certainly in the UK* but is one of my personal favourites. Possible accusations that it rode on the coat tails of the vaguely similar Annie Hall (in the unrequited love motif, and certainly in sentiment), though the source novel was written in 1976 predating Allen's landmark. *haven't read the novel but believe it to be fairly authentic*.

Only gripe is when checking the subs, there's a misheard / misunderstood line from one of Charles's witticisms;

'I read a magazine article on Jacques Cousteau, where a dolphin grew so fond of him, she always had her head out of the water to see him. Got sunburned. Christ, even if you're a dolphin love gives you a headache'

The subs read; 'Christ, even if you're a dolphin lover you get a headache'. Doesn't even make sense.

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:53 pm**

TT Email wrote:We are also very excited to announce a very special promotion we are calling March Madness. Throughout the month of March, all of our MGM/UA titles will be on sale at incredibly low prices. Many of these titles will likely sell out this month, so don't delay and miss your chance to own these collector's edition Blu-ray discs.

All of them? Is their license expiring or something?

Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:25 pm**

Screen Archive posted the list of MGM sale items over at the Blu-ray.com forums:

TWILIGHT TIME LIMITED SALE

MGM/UA MARCH MADNESS SALE!

SALE BEGINS WEDNESDAY, MARCH 1ST 4PM EDT

THROUGH FRIDAY, MARCH 31ST 4PM EDT!

NOTE: DIFFERENT PRICE BRACKETS PER TITLE.

ORDERS MUST BE PLACED DURING THE SALE PERIOD TO OBTAIN THE SALE PRICING. NO PREVIOUS, CURRENTLY PENDING OR FUTURE ORDERS QUALIFY.

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YENTL
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LOVE AND DEATH
LENNY
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Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2017 7:31 pm**

Received via email from Screen Archives:

NEW RELEASES NOW AVAILABLE FOR PRE-ORDER
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Posted: **Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:16 pm**

Finally biting the bullet on some Woody Allen titles. Between this and the Criterion Store flash sale, I'm a bit tapped out.

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