Re: 779 Mulholland Dr.
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:16 am
I would assume UHD only, as the blu-ray is using the older 4K master.
This right here is why I went with the SC. Who knows when I'll have a 4K set up, so having the better Blu-ray was top priority for me. And I have the old Criterion for the extras. My copy of the SC arrived today, hoping to check it out this weekend.Finch wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:30 am (SC's Blu-Ray is sourced from the latest 4k master as well as being properly encoded while Criterion just included their 2015 flop)
It looks great, I have it myself. But in comparison with the SC, I think the compression looks terrible. And it shouldn't, as it even has a larger filesize than the SC.yoloswegmaster wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:17 pm Saying that it looks "terrible" is just BR.com levels of hyperbole.
Thank you. Great job on this one. Don't know if he worked on the SC's that I found to look questionable (maybe it was titles that didn't look good without Dolby Vision, though). But the Italien UHD's of the Carpenters certainly has better compression than the UK's.swo17 wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:19 pm David Mackenzie did the SC encode, just as he has for a handful of their other releases
Yes, it doesn't look terrible, plus we need to factor in (at least from a Dolby Vision watching point of view) that since David used MEL while Pixelogic used FEL for the DV stream, it's likely the comparisons aren't totally fair texture-wise once downconverted here.yoloswegmaster wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:17 pm Saying that it looks "terrible" is just BR.com levels of hyperbole.
Comparing file sizes isn't really the right metric here, since the DV encodes don't have the same strategy, that the 5.1 tracks don't have the same bitrate at all by quite a margin (since both are 48/24, I wonder what happened here), and that the European disc has 2 dubs on top of this.jegharfangetmigenmyg wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:25 pmAnd it shouldn't, as it even has a larger filesize than the SC.
No, he didn't do the Carpenters. I'm unaware of any release he's encoded that's been received as anything less than exemplaryyoloswegmaster wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:17 pmThank you. Great job on this one. Don't know if he worked on the SC's that I found to look questionable (maybe it was titles that didn't look good without Dolby Vision, though). But the Italien UHD's of the Carpenters certainly has better compression than the UK's.swo17 wrote: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:19 pm David Mackenzie did the SC encode, just as he has for a handful of their other releases
This is a good point. I was recently rewatching the movie "Waking Life," which is a kind of documentary where various people are interviewed about their varying world views (coincidentally, it's also a movie that's all about dreams). At one point, a Buddhist interviewee says, "Yes, it is empty, but empty with such fullness." And sure, that's the kind of enigmatic Zen-sounding statement we expect from spiritual gurus. But it was a line that was running through my mind when thinking about Mulholland Drive. Perhaps that's an idea that Lynch was getting at in his films, which would square his Eastern-influenced spirituality with my interpretation (assuming my interpretation has any truth to it).Roger Ryan wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:51 pm Yes, this analysis is certainly in keeping with Lynch's approach to his film work. However, I don't think that "doubt" would seep into his head or work subconsciously as Lynch readily acknowledges such existentialist dilemmas throughout every film he made, more so than most filmmakers.
I agree with all of this. The great thing about Lynch's movies is that they are open to many interpretations, all of which are correct, because symbols in his movies never mean any one thing. In fact, it's probably wrong to even call them symbols, because they don't involve any straightforward reference > referent relationships. Instead, they are images that have many different associations, much like images in a dream. The Club Silencio sequence can represent Betty's escapist fantasy; it can represent the movie itself; it can represent movies in general; it can represent the way Hollywood lures actresses in with the Hollywood dream, uses them, and spits them out; it can be a metaphor for human existence; and on and on.Roger Ryan wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:51 pm For me, "Club Silencio" is not just a metaphor for the movie you're watching but for the cinema itself: where else do a group of people congregate but are expected to remain silent? All image and sound presented in the cinema is "prerecorded"; it's not a live event happening in the moment. In fact, what we're watching never really happened at all (in total) as a film is made up of many discreet elements that need to be assembled (like a puzzle?) to create the illusion of a whole. Throughout the first two thirds of the film, as Betty attempts to construct an alternate reality in her dream to assuage her anxiety over the deadly consequence of her selfish actions, that alternate reality is continually being interrupted by oblique reminders of the truth. "Club Silencio" is one of these moments where she is shown that the artifice of the movies is the same as the artifice of a dream, her dream in particular which appears to be the breaking point that will wake her. Although Lynch claimed not to know what the blue box and key represented, it appears that the box contains the knowledge that the constructed alternate reality is an illusion; once the box is opened, Betty/Diane cannot remain in the dream state.