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Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:28 pm**

mfunk9786 wrote:
R0lf wrote:Isn't it the point of the movie that the clothing is all outrageously ugly?

That the entire thing is a comedy of manners?
No?

It may seem that way to us because it's 2018, but in its time and place it absolutely isn't. You might want to inform everyone who worked on the costumes that it's all a big joke, they certainly don't seem in on it.

At the same time I'll inform the award winning costume team behind PRISCILLA QUEEN OF THE DESERT that their designs were all in deliberate good taste.

Design to the dialogue; I think it's strange the Oscar critic who called the gowns frumpy/unimaginative/unflattering/ugly somehow missed that that was also the narrative in the movie.

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:04 pm**

The dialogue indicates that the clothing is all outrageously ugly?

Posted: **Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:05 pm**

R0lf wrote:Design to the dialogue; I think it's strange the Oscar critic who called the gowns frumpy/unimaginative/unflattering/ugly somehow missed that that was also the narrative in the movie.

Seeing as these publications have only been posting the hottest steaming takes from anonymous voters it actually makes a lot of sense that it's there.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:21 am**

mfunk9786 wrote:The dialogue indicates that the clothing is all outrageously ugly?

Maybe I read the scene where Woodcock shrieks how bad the dress design is before collapsing on it too literally?

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:18 am**

I’d contend that you did.

Posted: **Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:25 am**

He doesn't shriek that the dress is bad, he looks it over and mutters that it's not very good, despite the good work his employees put in.

Posted: **Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:52 pm**

Film Forum has put up the podcasts for Liv Ullmann's Q&A's from last week. During the longer discussion following Shame, there's a charming moment where she talks about Phantom Thread and how she could relate to the breakfast scenes because breakfast was also a tense time when she was living with Ingmar Bergman for similar reasons.

Posted: **Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:46 pm**

mfunk9786 wrote:There is a UHD listing on Amazon UK with no release date now

I am seeing it suggested on Twitter by people with far more knowledge of the UK home video market that preordering this, despite it being [in essence] a placeholder, will increase the odds and speed with which it becomes a reality. Even if you don't have a 4K Blu-ray player - if you love this film, I hope you'd consider placing a risk-free preorder just to get the numbers to tick up. Would love to see it actually released, and apparently there is a precedent of Universal releasing 4K titles overseas months before they do so in the US in some cases.

And UHD/4K Blu-ray is completely region free.

So yeah, that's my pitch! Pre-order it! Do it for................. me! And other people!

Apparently, the UHD is back on for the US, and will be announced formally soon. So... I guess we won?

Posted: **Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:38 pm**

Hell yes!

Street date is listed as May 8th per Universal

Posted: **Mon Mar 26, 2018 2:47 pm**

It's official, a UHD Blu-ray is now on U.S. Amazon, releasing May 8th as expected

Posted: **Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:41 pm**

Deleted food fight scene.

Posted: **Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:53 pm**

diamonds wrote:Deleted food fight scene.

That must be from the "For The Hungry Boy" extra! I can't imagine that brief bit of improv would have ever been seriously considered for inclusion as it would have upset the balance between Reynolds and Cyril for the remainder of the film. Still, it looks like everyone is having fun; must have been early in the shoot before things turned morose.

Posted: **Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:21 pm**

diamonds wrote:Deleted food fight scene.

And meanwhile we'll likely never see the pie fight scene from "Dr. Strangelove"... #-o

Posted: **Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:41 pm**

I caught this during its last showing here in Philadelphia-I remember liking the music quite a bit. Foolish Heart was used nicely. I’m pretty sure I heard Revel, Brahms and maybe Weill. The fashion was glorious too. It might be the first PTA film I liked after seeing it...

With Tavernier’s documentary in mind, I saw a lot of Jacques Becker in this one.

Posted: **Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:56 am**

Going Method: Daniel Day Lewis in the subway with his 2002 flip phone.

Posted: **Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:55 pm**

Today in Missing the Point: Why Phantom Thread is Propaganda for Toxic Masculinity

Posted: **Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:32 am**

DarkImbecile wrote:Today in Missing the Point: Why Phantom Thread is Propaganda for Toxic Masculinity

The response to this in my bubble has been downright dismissive especially from women. It's an absolutely ridiculous article.

Posted: **Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:53 am**

A friend of mine--whose opinion on film I typically admire--posted this to Facebook, much to my bafflement. I was absolutely astonished by its ridiculous generalizations and assumptions. So...Phantom Thread is comparable to Communist-era propaganda? And its misogyny is on par with that of real-life serial predators/rapists like Harvey Weinstein? I don't even know where to begin with the claim that Apocalypse Now, The Green Berets, and the films of Kathryn Bigelow somehow all represent Hollywood studio filmmaking (and therefore dominant ideology) in equal measure. Barf.

Posted: **Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:01 am**

Yeah I totally "loved" Kathryn Bigolow's Zero Dark Thirty which she changed because it hurt the CIA's feelings. Totally normal thing to do. But yeah there's a difference between being churlish and being a rapist. I mean what the fuck? And this article was written by a man for those who missed it. And that was what really annoyed the women I saw who derided the piece. They thought it was not only flat out wrong but that it was rather disingenuous for a man in this capacity to be telling them what they should be thinking.

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:18 pm**

The cover art for the blu ray is reversible

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:20 pm**

This is the first major studio release in the US I've seen use a clear case too

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:47 pm**

That was also the cover of the 70mm program. Lovely, even though this is a weirdly difficult film to do really great poster/home video art for

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:53 pm**

Sadly I missed this in theaters, should I wait it out and get the 4K?

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:26 pm**

If you have a way to play the disc I don’t see why you wouldn’t

Posted: **Wed Apr 11, 2018 11:29 pm**

mfunk9786 wrote:That was also the cover of the 70mm program. Lovely, even though this is a weirdly difficult film to do really great poster/home video art for

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