Re: Citizen Kane (Orson Welles, 1941)
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 10:45 pm
I’m pretty sure you could - you can’t exactly get away with leaving out Touch of Evil the same as Fellini’s Casanova.
I don't know how this works, but couldn't Kino have put a block on Criterion's attempt to get boxset exclusives from Universal forftsoh wrote: Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:17 am Touch of Evil is Universal's and they have a long relationship with Criterion. It is probable to license it to Criterion as a boxset exclusive while Kino retain rights to the standalone release. Kino is also somehow exclusive since it is in 4K.
I am thinking of a similar arrangement of Bergman's The Serpent's Egg that is in the Criterion set while Arrow also has a standalone Blu-ray.
On the other hand, Macbeth (released by Olive) might be a problem since Face to Face (also released by Olive) is not included in the Bergman set.
But then again Casanova is also Universal's. So what do I know?
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Further details will be announced next week, though Wellesnet has heard a new restoration of Citizen Kane is among the big surprises. Warner Home Video did a restoration in 2011.
Criterion's laserdisc release included Welles' debut short The Hearts of Age which I don't think has made an appearance on a Blu-Ray yet.FrauBlucher wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 2:13 pm I'm trying to think of added supplements that Criterion could put on the release. Would Too Much Johnson be available for them to include? And what about The Mercury Theatre on the Air radio program?
There is a strong possibility this will be a 3 disc set. The (disc 1) UHD with commentaries, (disc 2) Bluray with commentaries and third disc with special features. Especially, if they include something like the BBC Arena documentary The Orson Welles Story and I'm sure they will port everything from the laser disc. And whatever new supplements they produce.Calvin wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:55 pmCriterion's laserdisc release included Welles' debut short The Hearts of Age which I don't think has made an appearance on a Blu-Ray yet.FrauBlucher wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 2:13 pm I'm trying to think of added supplements that Criterion could put on the release. Would Too Much Johnson be available for them to include? And what about The Mercury Theatre on the Air radio program?
I'm hoping that they might be able to get hold of the BBC Arena documentary The Orson Welles Story, which is essentially a two-part near-three hour profile and interview with the man from 1982 and, as ever, it would be nice if the works (unfinished or otherwise) owned by the Munich Film Museum were collected in a release but I doubt it will be here.
FrauBlucher wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:29 pmThere is a strong possibility this will be a 3 disc set. The (disc 1) UHD with commentaries, (disc 2) Bluray with commentaries and third disc with special features. Especially, if they include something like the BBC Arena documentary The Orson Welles Story and I'm sure they will port everything from the laser disc. And whatever new supplements they produce.Calvin wrote: Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:55 pmCriterion's laserdisc release included Welles' debut short The Hearts of Age which I don't think has made an appearance on a Blu-Ray yet.FrauBlucher wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 2:13 pm I'm trying to think of added supplements that Criterion could put on the release. Would Too Much Johnson be available for them to include? And what about The Mercury Theatre on the Air radio program?
I'm hoping that they might be able to get hold of the BBC Arena documentary The Orson Welles Story, which is essentially a two-part near-three hour profile and interview with the man from 1982 and, as ever, it would be nice if the works (unfinished or otherwise) owned by the Munich Film Museum were collected in a release but I doubt it will be here.
Making up the entirety of side six is The Legacy of Citizen Kane, an incredible 73-minute interactive documentary made up of 35 interviews with various directors, cinematographers, Kane collaborators and Welles' associates, all of whom are talking about how great Welles and Kane are (and rightfully so, I might add...). Broken up into 13 individual chapters, each chapter contains three separate interviews, presented simultaneously on a three-way split screen, with each interview obviously having its own audio track (digital, analog 1, analog 2). Each chapter opens with a still frame introducing each of the three participants, and includes a short list of credits. A complete chapter and audio index for all 35 participants is tacked onto the end of each chapter. The interviews were videotaped during the fall of 1990 in New York, Los Angeles and Europe, and were shot in a variety of formats, all of which transferred very well to disc. Oh, and in case you're curious, the folks interviewed include Peter Bogdanovich, Roger Corman, Joe Dante, Allen Daviau, Brian De Palma, Lynwood Dunn, Richard Edlund, Blake Edwards, John Frankenheimer, Costa Gavras, Gary Graver, Taylor Hackford, Henry Jaglom, Rick Jewell, Lawrence Kasdan, Laszlo Kovacs, John Landis, Barry Levinson, Gary Lucchesi, Frank Marshall, Paul Mazursky, Burt Reynolds, Martin Ritt, Joel Schumacher, Martin Scorsese, Ridley Scott, Susan Seidelman, Penelope Spheeris, Robert Townsend, Theo Van de Sande, Ruth Warrick, Haskell Wexler, Richard Wilson, Robert Wise and Vilmos Zsigmond.
You're not kidding, I can't remember the last time they pulled out all the stops like this. 3 commentaries, 2 blu-rays just for special features...it might be their most loaded new release since the DVD era. Good that they didn't duplicate "Battle Over Citizen Kane", anyone who cares to own this probably already has a copy of that.
Addition from subtraction IMHO.domino harvey wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:11 pm So this is missing the 2 hour the Battle Over Citizen Kane from the first release?
None of the Criterion LDs had a commentary.movielocke wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:29 pm WOW, this is probably the most stacked release since the Seven Samurai second edition dropped. Impressive array of extras. Did the CAV and CLV criterion LDs not have commentaries?
This is untrue. They came into existence in part because of commentaries.The Fanciful Norwegian wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:49 pmNone of the Criterion LDs had a commentary.movielocke wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:29 pm WOW, this is probably the most stacked release since the Seven Samurai second edition dropped. Impressive array of extras. Did the CAV and CLV criterion LDs not have commentaries?
Yeah, I’m pleased that they went back and used some of the relevant material in a thoughtful way.The Fanciful Norwegian wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:49 pm It does appear they're dropping most of the interviews from the 50th Anniversary LD and focusing mainly on those with people who worked with Welles. From my recollection most of the interviews were fairly generic gushing so I don't think this is a huge loss.