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Re: David Lynch
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:07 pm
by chizbooga
the scene that interested me the most is the one where jeffrey and dorothy are on the rooftop of her apartment building and dorothy drops her red shoes over the ledge. im predisposed to assume or at least hope that the missing scenes at least approach the level of quality of the existing film, because it is Blue Velvet after all. i thought the scenes were removed because of Lynch's contractual obligations to De Laurentiis to bring in a two-hour movie
Re: David Lynch
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:57 pm
by Roger Ryan
Yes, Lynch was obligated to a 2-hour running time if he was to maintain "final cut", but I seriously doubt he would have issued a 4-hour version if he had a choice in the matter. I imagine if he had complete freedom he might have extended the running time another 20 to 25 minutes, but I've never heard him complain about being dissatisfied with the released version. He shot a lot of material for FIRE WALK WITH ME as well, but realized that many of the subplots involving familiar TWIN PEAKS characters just didn't fit in the film as he ultimately envisioned it. The good news is that all the extra FWWM footage exists (although who knows if it will ever be released) whereas the BLUE VELVET footage is lost.
Re: David Lynch
Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:55 am
by Finch
There are one or two additional scenes with Laura and Leland in the script that were shot (confirmed by Grace Zabriskie) and it would be nice to see those at least reinserted but Roger is right that pretty much all the other scenes with Peaks regulars don't really belong in the film as such.
Re: David Lynch
Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:54 pm
by Jean-Luc Garbo
What were those two scenes, Finch? Any great shakes?
Re: David Lynch
Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 9:55 pm
by Finch
JLG, let me get back to you re your question. In the meantime, I found
a nice interview with Bob Engels re FWWM and the show.
edit:
this deleted scene takes place after Laura's discovered that entries from the diary have been ripped out:
Scene 72: Palmer house entrance.
Laura runs down the steps nearly colliding with her mom, Sarah Palmer, coming down with a load of groceries. A cigarette in her mouth.
SARAH:
Laura, honey …
(smoke getting into her tearing eyes)
Cigarette … cigarette …
Laura takes it out of her mouth.
LAURA:
Can I take the car?
SARAH:
Sure honey, what’s the hurry?
LAURA:
I forgot my books at school.
Laura runs from the house.
SARAH:
Laura.
LAURA:
What?
Laura looks back to see her mom dangling the car keys in front of her. Laura comes back to get the keys, still holding the burning cigarette. Sarah sternly takes the cigarette from Laura’s hand. As they make the exchange:
SARAH:
You’ll never be a smoker if you don’t start. I mean it.
Takes a drag. With barely a nod, Laura is gone.
Not a huge scene by any means but I always felt Grace Zabriskie didn't get enough screentime in the finished film. Next excerpt is a scene following on from Laura's visit to Harold Smith:
Scene 78: Palmer dining room
Laura rushes in to find her mom setting the table. Sarah stops and stares at Laura.
SARAH:
You lied to me about those school books. I found them upstairs on your bed.
LAURA (suspicion and paranoia):
What were you doing in my room?
SARAH:
I was looking for that blue sweater that you borrowed which I found balled up in the bottom of your closet. Now why did you lie to me? Where did you go?
LAURA:
I had to see Bobby. I know you really don’t like Bobby, but there was a problem and I didn’t think you would understand.
SARAH:
Oh, honey, you don’t have to lie to me. Ever. You can tell me anything. I’ll understand.
LAURA:
I’m sorry, Mom.
SARAH:
Now hurry, dinner’s almost ready. Your father says he’s starving.
[Ed. Confirmed to have been shot. Source: Grace Zabriskie.]
Scene 79: Palmer dining room
Laura is already at the table. Sarah puts the rest of the dinner on the table and sits down just as Leland enters from the kitchen. He is pretending he is a giant. Using a voice like a giant.LELAND (big giant voice):
Hello, Laura. Hello, Sarah. Where’s my axe?
(singing) “I’m hungry.”
SARAH:
Oh, Leland.
LAURA (embarrassed):
Dad.
LELAND (suddenly speaking Norwegian):
Hyggelig ĺ mřte dem. Jeg Heter Leland Palmer.
Translation is: How are you? My name is Leland Palmer.
Laura and Sarah stare at him.
LELAND:
The Norwegians are coming next week and I want you to learn to say what I just learned in Norwegian. So you can talk to them. I want you to learn to say, “Hello, my name is Leland Palmer.”
LAURA:
But my name isn’t Leland Palmer.
SARAH:
Neither is mine. And can’t we talk about something serious for a change?
LELAND:
This is serious. Mr. Benjamin Horne’s got a delegation of Norwegians coming in next week and I want both of you to learn to introduce yourself. Sarah, you first.
Leland repeats his phrase for Sarah’s benefit.
LELAND:
Hyggelig ĺ mřte dem. Jeg Heter Leland Palmer.
Sarah stumbles through it.
SARAH:
Hyggelig ĺ mřte dem. Jeg Heter Sarah Palmer.
Leland repeats his phrase back to her. Extends his hand in a friendly handshake.
LELAND:
Good. We’ll practice some more. Laura, now you try it.
Laughingly, Laura does the same thing.
LAURA:
Hyggelig ĺ mřte dem. Jeg Heter Laura Palmer.
After Laura is done.
LELAND:
All together now …
Leland extends a hand to each of them. An air of insanity seems to come over the Palmer dining room as they all begin to laugh hysterically and talk in broken Norwegian.
[Ed. Confirmed to have been shot. Source: Grace Zabriskie, Photographic. Note that Grace Zabriskie describes this scene as the laughter starting to be warm and gradually builds into a scene of complete over the top hysteria. In speaking with Grace, she has told me that of all the scenes that she filmed for Twin Peaks, this was her most treasured and she hopes to be able to see this scene someday. Also to note, the phrase "Hyggelig ĺ mřte dem" is more precicely translated as "nice to meet you" rather than "how are you" as noted in the script.]
Another scene involving Mrs Palmer I found quite intriguing:
Scene 118: The stairway.
The fan turns slowly as Laura goes up the stairs.
BOB’S VOICE: Laura.
Laura’s head snaps around.
LAURA:
No … No, go away.
BOB’S VOICE:
I’m glad you let me talk to you. You used to not let me talk to you.
LAURA:
Go away. I am not talking to you.
BOB’S VOICE:
I want you.
Sarah Palmer is at the bottom of the stairs.
SARAH:
Laura?
Laura jumps.
SARAH:
Laura, now I can’t find that blue sweater. Did you take it again?
[Ed. See Scene 78.]
LAURA:
Mom … what are you wearing?
Sarah looks down. She is wearing the sweater that she is looking for.
SARAH:
My god, I am going to have another breakdown. God, god.
LAURA:
Mom, take it easy.
Laura starts down the stairs towards her mother.
SARAH:
No, no … this can’t be happening.
Laura holds her mother.
LAURA:
Mom, you’re not having a nervous breakdown.
Sarah pulls away from Laura and wanders into the living room. Laura watches her go, feeling helpless.
END OF DELETED Scene
[Ed. Confirmed to have been shot. Source: Grace Zabriskie.]
Have a look at dugpa's summary of all deleted scenes for FWWM here - it's well worth your time
http://dugpa.com/features/twin-peaks-fi ... ed-scenes/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: David Lynch
Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 9:20 pm
by Jean-Luc Garbo
Thanks, Finch. I'll have to research this further. I can see why the scene with Leland speaking Norwegian got cut, but you're right that Grace Zabriskie didn't get enough screen time. I've seen the movie enough times to imagine these scenes in my mind, but it'd still be nice to have a look at them. Very interesting work here indeed.
Re: David Lynch
Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:35 pm
by John Cope
Re: David Lynch
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:03 pm
by Finch
Fire Walk With Me and Lost Highway to hit Blu-Ray in France, courtesy of MK2 on November 3. No specs announced as yet.
Re: David Lynch
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 6:55 pm
by mfunk9786
What's MK2's reputation when it comes to Blu-ray quality? That's such exciting news.
Re: David Lynch
Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:04 pm
by Finch
Couldn't say mfunk but I wanted to clarify where I got the news from: pro-bassoonist posted the announcement on another forum. What I'm most intrigued about is how their Blu of Lost Highway handles the handful of pitch-black sequences in Fred's apartment, and whether the FWWM Blu will include the deleted scenes. Chances are both will be region B only.
PS.: It's a preliminary announcement and as such the release date is subject to change. I think MK2 are also prepping the Three Colours Trilogy for Blu.
Re: David Lynch
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2010 2:25 pm
by Finch
Dugpa reckons that the upcoming FWWM Blu is almost certainly going to be a barebones release. He says in this
piece that MK2 are sitting on over 20 hours of interview footage for FWWM that they hired him to shoot between 2004 and 2005. If you want to see this stuff, follow dugpa's link at the bottom of the page to contact MK2 as this may be the last ever chance to see the deleted scenes and specifically commissioned documentary World of Blue.
David Lynch on The Cleveland Show
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:29 am
by lacritfan
He's been on for awhile now but didn't see any mention of it, so...I still can't believe David Lynch is a guest voice on The Cleveland Show. How did Seth get him to do it, I mean, it's even his likeness? It goes to Lynch-ian surrealism and beyond and back to normal and onto WTF. It's just another one of many celebrities doing a guest voice, but...it's David Lynch...
Re: David Lynch
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:49 am
by knives
Bills need a paying.
Re: David Lynch
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 4:19 am
by matrixschmatrix
Re: David Lynch
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 5:46 am
by mfunk9786
Funny?
Re: David Lynch
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:38 am
by The Elegant Dandy Fop
mfunk9786 wrote:Funny?
Since when was Achewood funny?
Re: David Lynch
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 9:39 am
by MichaelB
mfunk9786 wrote:What's MK2's reputation when it comes to Blu-ray quality?
Artificial Eye's MK2-sourced
The Double Life of Veronique is an outstanding disc - though since MK2 made the film in the first place, and the company is currently run by the son of the film's original producer, that's not too surprising.
Re: David Lynch
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:58 pm
by perkizitore
Finch wrote:Fire Walk With Me and Lost Highway to hit Blu-Ray in France, courtesy of MK2 on November 3. No specs announced as yet.
Any reviews online? I want to pair something with my A Man Escaped order to justify the shipping costs.
Re: David Lynch
Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:43 pm
by BsRoz
perkizitore wrote:Finch wrote:Fire Walk With Me and Lost Highway to hit Blu-Ray in France, courtesy of MK2 on November 3. No specs announced as yet.
Any reviews online? I want to pair something with my A Man Escaped order to justify the shipping costs.
A short review with screenshots
here.
Region-b coding can seemingly be bypassed easily.
Re: David Lynch
Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:25 pm
by Finch
Blue Velvet gets a French Blu on
16 February 2010 from Fox Pathe - no specs yet.
Re: David Lynch
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:39 pm
by Finch
Re: David Lynch
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:22 am
by Finch
Re: David Lynch
Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:26 pm
by Jameson281
Another Lynch interview
BLUE VELVET fans will be very interested in what he has to say around the 21:30 mark . . .
Re: David Lynch
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:49 pm
by Guido
I'm summing up here, but the above posted audio interview with Lynch reveals that the upcoming Blu release of Blue Velvet will include deleted scenes and outtakes that have recently re-surfaced. According to Lynch, those materials were deemed lost after Laurentiis's company went bankrupt, but they've been found somewhere in Seattle. Rejoice!
Re: David Lynch
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:54 pm
by Roger Ryan
Holy Cow - the excised footage has been found?! Of course, this is no guarantee that any of the footage will end up on a Blu-ray edition (per every issue of FIRE WALK WITH ME), but it's great to hear the material wasn't trashed and Lynch certainly sounds excited by the rediscovery.