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Re: 64 / BD 70 Nosferatu
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:05 pm
by eerik
18th November is the release date according to Zavvi.
Special features:
- Brand new high-definition restoration by Friedrich-Wilhelm-Murnau-Stiftung
- Two audio commentaries: one newly recorded by film historian David Kalat; the second by historian R. Dixon Smith and critic Brad Stevens
- The Language of Shadows, a 53-minute documentary on Murnau's early years and the filming of Nosferatu
- New video interview with BFI Film Classics Nosferatu author Kevin Jackson
- Newly translated English subtitles with original German intertitles
- More surprises to be revealed closer to release date!
- PLUS: a 56-page booklet featuring writings and rare imagery
Re: 64 / BD 70 Nosferatu
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:16 pm
by domino harvey
I love that they're keeping the old commentary-- class act move! Take my money!
Re: 64 / BD 70 Nosferatu
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:28 pm
by EddieLarkin
Whilst listening to Christopher Frayling talk about The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, I decided to switch over to the alternate Richard Schickel commentary to compare. During the 3-way Mexican standoff scene, Schickel said little more than that the leads form a triangle, that the title is triangular too, and that Clint was the Good, Wallach the Ugly and Van Cleef the Bad (I would never have guessed). Frayling on the other hand is talking at lightning speed, clearly in awe of the scene, describing what makes it so amazing.
I hope to have similar fun times with the Kalat/Smith-Stevens tracks.
Re: 64 / BD 70 Nosferatu
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:40 pm
by Drucker
EddieLarkin wrote:Whilst listening to Christopher Frayling talk about The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, I decided to switch over to the alternate Richard Schickel commentary to compare. During the 3-way Mexican standoff scene, Schickel said little more than that the leads form a triangle, that the title is triangular too, and that Clint was the Good, Wallach the Ugly and Van Cleef the Bad (I would never have guessed). Frayling on the other hand is talking at lightning speed, clearly in awe of the scene, describing what makes it so amazing.
I hope to have similar fun times with the Kalat/Smith-Stevens tracks.
Count me in amongst those awaiting the
Kalat track. Though, sorry to burst your bubble Eddie, but the original Smith-Stevens track has a pretty negative reputation, and you can count me in among the people that thought it was pretty dull/full of on-screen narration.
Re: 64 / BD 70 Nosferatu
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:42 pm
by EddieLarkin
Well that's precisely my point. Like the GBU tracks, I'll have "fun" comparing how one track is so unbelievably poor compared to the other.
Re: 64 / BD 70 Nosferatu
Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:50 pm
by Drucker
EddieLarkin wrote:Well that's precisely my point. Like the GBU tracks, I'll have "fun" comparing how one track is so unbelievably poor compared to the other.
Ah! Sorry I misunderstood.
Re: 64 / BD 70 Nosferatu
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:10 am
by Orlac
Drucker wrote:EddieLarkin wrote:Whilst listening to Christopher Frayling talk about The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, I decided to switch over to the alternate Richard Schickel commentary to compare. During the 3-way Mexican standoff scene, Schickel said little more than that the leads form a triangle, that the title is triangular too, and that Clint was the Good, Wallach the Ugly and Van Cleef the Bad (I would never have guessed). Frayling on the other hand is talking at lightning speed, clearly in awe of the scene, describing what makes it so amazing.
I hope to have similar fun times with the Kalat/Smith-Stevens tracks.
Count me in amongst those awaiting the
Kalat track. Though, sorry to burst your bubble Eddie, but the original Smith-Stevens track has a pretty negative reputation, and you can count me in among the people that thought it was pretty dull/full of on-screen narration.
It was also bitchy in places.
Re: 64 / BD 70 Nosferatu
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:50 pm
by videozor
eerik wrote:18th November is the release date according to Zavvi.
Special features...
So, will it be a Blu-ray only, or Blu-ray and DVD re-issue, the way they did Tabu?
Re: 64 / BD 70 Nosferatu
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:43 pm
by swo17
MoC Twitter wrote:As previously announced we will be releasing Blu-ray and DVD editions of a new 2013 restoration, + new supplements, of Murnau's NOSFERATU.
Sounds like the same deal as
Tabu. Though given that the BD of the restoration features the cover art from the original DVD, this could create some confusion--the DVD reissue will have to have either the same art as the original release or different art from the comparable BD.
EDIT: There are in fact separate BD, BD steelbook, and DVD listings up at Amazon UK. However, no cover art is shown yet.
Re: 64 / BD 70 Nosferatu
Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:10 pm
by eerik
videozor wrote:eerik wrote:18th November is the release date according to Zavvi.
Special features...
So, will it be a Blu-ray only, or Blu-ray and DVD re-issue, the way they did Tabu?
Separate Blu-ray and DVD releases plus Blu-ray SteelBook.
Re: 64 / BD 70 Nosferatu
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:54 pm
by swo17
MoC Newsletter wrote:Our Nosferatu SteelBook will now be a Dual-Format release containing both Blu-ray and DVD
Re: 64 / BD 70 Nosferatu
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:54 pm
by domino harvey
And MoC finally makes its move in getting that one guy in the Kino thread to buy their edition instead
Re: 64 / BD 70 Nosferatu
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:32 pm
by HerrSchreck
Maybe one of these days I'll get around to mine. It's next on deck for ninety minutes of recorded yammering. The summer has just pinned me to the mat with exhaustion.
Also, pay attention-- one of our more erudite and prolific contributors around our environs is preparing a commentary of his own-- to add variety and more consistency (and relieve potential schreck fatigue, if not just from folks listening to me over and over again then to relieve my own having to listen to myself over and over again while making them).
I'm open to a limited number of suggestions, if anyone would like to suggest someone to add to the project that could pull it off for feature length. Has a nice little audience.
Re: 64 / BD 70 Nosferatu
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:59 pm
by Gregor Samsa
Obviously this isn't one of the bigger issues with the upgrade to blu, but if the shortening of the booklet involves removing one of the long articles, I hope they decide to keep the Perez piece. Rightly praised earlier in this thread, its a clever, really interesting reading of the film and its meaning, and one of the better essays I've read in a DVD/blu-ray booklet.
Re: 64 / BD 70 Nosferatu
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:20 pm
by HerrSchreck
I always found it odd that Transit/FWMS didn't run a BD-functional 2k scan on the last go-round of releases for this film (ie the one that restored the original score).
Re: 64 / BD 70 Nosferatu
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:35 pm
by Drucker
Re: 64 / BD 70 Nosferatu
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:47 pm
by HerrSchreck
Nice.... and as you can see, there are no rounded corners or bunked AR.
Re: 64 / BD 70 Nosferatu
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:57 pm
by FrauBlucher
This has to be in the running for release of the year...
detailed
Re: 64 / BD 70 Nosferatu
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:50 pm
by FrauBlucher
Re: 64 / BD 70 Nosferatu
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:24 am
by EddieLarkin
David Kalat's
latest blog post is on Nosferatu, acting as a short companion piece to his upcoming commentary.
Re: 64 / BD 70 Nosferatu
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:55 pm
by HerrSchreck
David Kalat wrote:OK, obviously F.W. Murnau is the director of this acclaimed work. Murnau is himself a once-in-a-generation talent who worked in an institutional environment where the director had a substantially higher degree of authority and creative latitude than anywhere else. As a result, it’s an easy trap to fall into to think of Murnau’s films as wholly auterist creations, in which he and he alone was responsible for all the creative decisions.
But thinking about Nosferatu in these terms does a disservice to the film and leads us down some false trails—one of which is missing the contribution of Albin Grau.
Grau’s credit on Nosferatu is for “costumes and sets,” and he is often referred to as the designer. But as we shall see, that’s a gross misrepresentation.
I don't particularly relish the thought of finding myself in the position of disagreeing with the commentator/writer I trumpet almost above all others, but I think that David is pretty seriously off the mark here. Every presentation of this film on the occasion of it's past restoration--where the original score was recovered and presented with the film--came with a Transit-produced feature focusing entirely on the person of Albin Grau, specifically because his contribution is every bit as profound as writer and director in terms of conceiving and constructing this film. Grau was credited as the core figure of the film, who conceived it, designed it, and hired everybody who pretty much extrapolated his very specific inner vision of the film, right down to his
extremely unusual conception of what a vampire should look like. It's noted that it was his production company and his title, and that the occultist bent was his own-- he is the axle around which the entire wheel of
Nosferatu turned. They even discuss his next, post-Prana title,
Warning Shadows/Schatten, which carried forward his very unique cinematic sensibility (and thus helps illustrate for viewers and historians the Short Lived Cinema of Albin Grau via the consistency between the two titles), and with him into this film went key cast and crew of
Nosferatu: Gustav von Wangenheim (Hutter), Alexander Granach (Knock), cameraman Fritz Wagner. . . .
Re: 64 / BD 70 Nosferatu
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:08 pm
by knives
I think that's what he is saying actually.
Re: 64 / BD 70 Nosferatu
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:51 pm
by HerrSchreck
No shite... The problem is he's saying it as though this was all hiitherto never publicly appreciated about Grau.
My point is that all of the previous Authorized Editions of the films last restoration acknowledged that it was indeed a Symphony of Grauen heh heh...
Re: 64 / BD 70 Nosferatu
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 4:41 am
by Props55
Agreed that there was nothing substantially new in Kalet's post (extra details regarding the existance of other occult groups, etc.) and that all us folks here are in the know but (unless I'm mistaken) isn't this blog a part of the whole TCM shebang? In which case I can well understand Kalet's desire to put all the Grau influence up front for the benefit of all the mainstream TCMers out there in fanland. Last time I checked (my cable service has never offered TCM!) all silents were still pretty much confined to the Sunday Night ghetto with an occasional breakout on certain occasions (like Halloween) so I see it as Kalet's opportunity to spread the gospel to the great unwashed. There's probably an interested audience out there (again in TCMland) that very likely doesn't spring for Kino product (hey it's "free" on TV!) and never heard of MoC or "region free".
Re: 64 / BD 70 Nosferatu
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:55 pm
by HerrSchreck
Sounds a little forced...
In preparing my track I took the opportunity to challenge some of the received wisdom (ON TCM.COM) about the authorship of this film—but one disadvantage of the audio commentary format as a vehicle for that kind of (TCM.COM) discussion is that I was limited to the visual examples presented by the film itself. To really make my case (ON TCM.COM) I wanted to be able to show some other film clips or stills—which is best suited to a blog! So here we go—into the mad world of Nosferatu’s creator, F.W. Murnau Albin Grau!
But lest I come off like I don't love David to death, these will be my last comments on the matter. Perhaps he never grabbed an actual retail copy of any of the Transit - sourced releases on the last go-round. Greater sins hath been committed by man!