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Re: How to pronounce your favorite director's name

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:49 am
by TMDaines
I quite like Töm. Deed Poll here I come!

Re: How to pronounce your favorite director's name

Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:21 am
by fiddlesticks
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Re: How to pronounce your favorite director's name

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:01 pm
by Snob mon cul

Re: How to pronounce your favorite director's name

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:40 pm
by fiddlesticks
Not a pronunciation question, but rather one of name order:
Recently there have been some posts in this forum that have left me completely at sea regarding Thai names. I can't seem to find anything definitive on the question of name order. Is it East Asian style FamilyName GivenName or Western style GivenName FamilyName? More specifically, which is the family name for Pen-Ek Ratanaruang and for Apichatpong Weerasethakul?

Re: How to pronounce your favorite director's name

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:56 am
by TMDaines
Thai names are FirstName FamilyName. Also Thais change their family names fairly often and each family name has to be unique to each family.

Re: How to pronounce your favorite director's name

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:20 am
by onedimension
The Hou Hsiao-Hsien girl sounds hot.

Re: How to pronounce your favorite director's name

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:47 am
by fiddlesticks
TMDaines wrote:Thai names are FirstName FamilyName. Also Thais change their family names fairly often and each family name has to be unique to each family.
Thanks. I wonder, then, why virtually everything I turn up on the web, from Wikipedia to Thaifilm.com to The Bangkok Post to our own Forum Member of the Year refers to Pen-Ek Ratanaruang as "Pen-Ek" when using just one name. I would expect them to use the family name in such situations, but I can't recall ever seeing this director referred to (in print) as "Ratanaruang." (On the other hand, he is "Pen-Ek Ratanaruang" in imdb, which is usually ruthless in applying its "GivenName FamilyName" rule.) I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just confused and looking to be certain about this...especially since I store my DVDs alphabetized by director!

Re: How to pronounce your favorite director's name

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:30 pm
by TMDaines
A vast majority of Thai first names are also unique too and I'm guessing what ever name is referred to depends on the social situation.

Re: How to pronounce your favorite director's name

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:26 pm
by aox
Bela Tarr

is it:

Bay-Lah, Bay-ah, Bee-Lah, Bee-yah, Bah-Lah?

Re: How to pronounce your favorite director's name

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:35 pm
by tojoed
Be-bop-a-lula.

Re: How to pronounce your favorite director's name

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:52 pm
by MichaelB
aox wrote:Bela Tarr

is it:

Bay-Lah, Bay-ah, Bee-Lah, Bee-yah, Bah-Lah?
I'd say "Bay-lah", but that's going from a half-remembered talk on Béla Bartók given by a Hungarian.

Re: How to pronounce your favorite director's name

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:03 pm
by aox
MichaelB wrote:
aox wrote:Bela Tarr

is it:

Bay-Lah, Bay-ah, Bee-Lah, Bee-yah, Bah-Lah?
I'd say "Bay-lah", but that's going from a half-remembered talk on Béla Bartók given by a Hungarian.
Cool, that's how I have been pronouncing it. Like the musician, Bela Fleck. Just wasn't sure if this is right. Anyone else have some thoughts?

Re: How to pronounce your favorite director's name

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:36 pm
by Zot!
I can confirm that it is BAY-luh, like in "duh", not lah. And the last name would be the same short sound, rather than the "tawr" sound of the english word tar. Either way, you are getting awfully close. One of the few simple things about Hungarian is that is phonetic, so the pronunciations are actually pretty easy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_alphabet

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Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 9:59 am
by Duncan Hopper
denti alligator wrote:
MichaelB wrote:Here's another one I can be 100% certain about - Quay (as in Brothers) is pronounced "Kway".
I found it amusing that this was explained in the dictionary included in the bfi set. In the US, the word quay has to be one of the most commonly mis-pronounced (as "kway") words. I've had well-educated, extremely intelligent people look at me funny when I pronounced it correctly ("key").
MichaelB wrote:That was literally a last-minute addition, made between the first and second proofs of the booklet.

On the same day, I heard someone at work pronounced their name "key" and since we had a tiny bit of space left, so I thought "let's nail this once and for all" and added that entry after I realised that nowhere on the DVD, despite two interviews and six commentaries, is the name "Quay" uttered out loud.
So is it 'Kway' or 'Key'?
I have to say I've never heard anyone pronounce it 'key' before, and that includes people I know that have worked with the Quay Brothers.

Re: How to pronounce your favorite director's name

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:54 pm
by MichaelB
The word 'quay' is normally pronounced 'key', but the identically-written surname of identical twin animators Stephen and Timothy is pronounced 'kway'.

But I've heard people pronouncing it 'key' quite a bit, especially in the run-up to the release of the BFI's DVD of their short films - which is why I put it in the booklet in the first place.

Re: How to pronounce your favorite director's name

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:23 pm
by Matt
Here's the literary version of this thread (but they're still wrong on Anaïs Nin).

Re: How to pronounce your favorite director's name

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:00 am
by Jean-Luc Garbo
Sacha Guitry, anyone? I've been saying it Sah-shah Gee-tree, but I think I'm wrong.

Re: How to pronounce your favorite director's name

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:13 am
by Snob mon cul

Re: How to pronounce your favorite director's name

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:32 am
by tojoed
I've always said Sasher Gweetree, but I don't know if that's right either.

Re: How to pronounce your favorite director's name

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:38 am
by Doctor Sunshine
I thought Forvo mooted this thread.

Re: How to pronounce your favorite director's name

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:09 pm
by Lemmy Caution
So if one were to develop Foreign Accent Syndrome, would they start pronouncing, say, french directors' names properly (or in this case Chinese).

Re: How to pronounce your favorite director's name

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:30 pm
by tenia
Jean-Luc Garbo wrote:Sacha Guitry, anyone? I've been saying it Sah-shah Gee-tree, but I think I'm wrong.
You're right, it's Sah-shah Gee-tree, with short vowels ([a] and ) and the G + u making Gee not like in Jesus, but like in Grand.

Re: How to pronounce your favorite director's name

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:06 am
by MichaelB
Since I'm going to have to introduce him on stage on Sunday, any tips on Alexei Balabanov? I could always ask him beforehand, but that seems a bit awkward.

I'm guessing AlekSEYee BalaBANov, but any more informed input would be greatly appreciated.

Re: How to pronounce your favorite director's name

Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:11 pm
by TMDaines
MichaelB wrote:Since I'm going to have to introduce him on stage on Sunday, any tips on Alexei Balabanov? I could always ask him beforehand, but that seems a bit awkward.

I'm guessing AlekSEYee BalaBANov, but any more informed input would be greatly appreciated.
I'm pretty sure an "ee" sound on the end is erroneous and would be a how an English speaker would anglicise it [-X

I'd go for: ah-lyek-SAY or ah-lyek-SAI

I think the surname is OK.

Re: How to pronounce your favorite director's name

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:37 pm
by rohmerin
I have to confess that I've never and ever knew how to pronounce Borzage and Dieterle, and, well, she's an actress, but Deborah Kerr, when I try to say it in the propper way, I can not.
Deborah Kerr is just the perfect example of all the difficulties - impossibilities for a Spanish speaker when he (me) tries not to sound Spaniard.