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Roger Ryan wrote:Don't forget the blatant one for SCANNERS.

The whole California Raisin ("I Heard It Through The Grapevine") now seems like such an obvious nod to THE BIG CHILL even though it was one of the more obscure clues.

All That Heaven Allows
A Hard Days Night
Riot In Cell Block 11
The Big Chill
the Demy Boxset (4 clues for this) Actually 6 clues for the Demy's (as per MovieLocke)
Breaking the Waves
Red River
Picnic at Hanging Rock
Il Sorprasso
& Scanners.
That leaves.... Cure, Tootsie, A Brighter Summer Day, Red Sun, Ringu, MacBeth and Garlic is as Good as Ten Mothers and perhaps the newest restoration of M in dual format...
I'm sure there are double clues for some.

And Tati.

Oh and THE PARTY and whatever the Jimmy Stewart-looking fella represents.

There's also the grid on the tablecloth between the garlic and tootsie rolls.

Still waiting for Tootsie.

Stoked about Scanners.

I love the possibility of Macbeth and Cure, although I think Macbeth is about as sure a thing as we have remaining. We all knew about the Lawrence Kasden movie (ugh), just because he had been talking about it for a while now. I don't see Red Sun or Ringu joining the Collection. Not really against either film, but I don't see it. Red Sun always seemed like a second or third tier kind of film to me. Good intentions, but maybe not the best execution.

What's besides The Eraserhead (2013) and Y Tu Mama Tambien (2011, 2012) is left over from the previous years' drawings?

Ashirg wrote:What's besides The Eraserhead (2013) and Y Tu Mama Tambien (2011, 2012) is left over from the previous years' drawings?

Oshima's Boy/Shonen, for one.

beastwave wrote:Stoked about Scanners.

I love the possibility of Macbeth and Cure, although I think Macbeth is about as sure a thing as we have remaining. We all knew about the Lawrence Kasden movie (ugh), just because he had been talking about it for a while now. I don't see Red Sun or Ringu joining the Collection. Not really against either film, but I don't see it. Red Sun always seemed like a second or third tier kind of film to me. Good intentions, but maybe not the best execution.

Being a broken record, Tootsie is also a 100% certainty.

movielocke wrote:there are actually six angels for the demy clue, which makes sense in retrospect.

Though one of those angels (the indifferent one with a bell) relates to a film that isn't in the set (Le Bel Indifferent) - unless somebody can figure out how that clue might relate to one of the other included titles.

There are four 'themed' angels:
- one wearing a Donkey Skin
- one wearing Lola's boa
- one brandishing an Umbrella [of Cherbourg]
- and the one flying away with a bell
plus another two unthemed angels making up the numbers for a Bay of Angels.

So the bell-bearing one either cryptically refers to Les Demoiselles de Rochefort or Un chambre en ville, or else the plans for this set changed after the drawing was released. Maybe Les Demoiselles was a late confirmation? I think it used to have different licensing arrangements in the US.

Rochefort was a Miramax release

I thought everyone agreed that the bell one was a hint for Breaking the Waves.

swo17 wrote:I thought everyone agreed that the bell one was a hint for Breaking the Waves.

That's what I thought.

I just started watching Tarkovsky's The Mirror for the first time, and unless the search function is failing me, I'm surprised nobody has suggested it in place of Ringu:
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(Yes, I know, using a cell phone camera on a TV is terrible.)

I'm not lying--I literally JUST finished watching The Mirror for the first time as well (though I didn't make the connection to the drawing). It's a very good thought, but it was released by Kino on DVD several years ago... Don't they avoid taking each other's films?

sir_luke wrote:I'm not lying--I literally JUST finished watching The Mirror for the first time as well (though I didn't make the connection to the drawing). It's a very good thought, but it was released by Kino on DVD several years ago... Don't they avoid taking each other's films?

I can't find it anywhere, but I recall reading that Kino said they only had DVD rights (not Blu-ray) to one of the Tarkovsky films (fairly certain it was The Mirror). I really hope Criterion ends up with it... as much as I want another blah transfer and barebones release from Kino (cough, Nostalghia).

I'm watching the old Kino right now, and between the fact that the subs are burnt in and that many lines of dialogue go unsubtitled, a Criterion edition of this has suddenly jumped to the top of my most wanted list.

Minkin wrote:I can't find it anywhere, but I recall reading that Kino said they only had DVD rights (not Blu-ray) to one of the Tarkovsky films (fairly certain it was The Mirror).

I'm pretty sure it was Stalker that Kino has DVD only rights to.

criterion10 wrote:I'm pretty sure it was Stalker that Kino has DVD only rights to.

That seems to be correct, though it doesn't preclude them having DVD-only rights to The Mirror as well.

swo17 wrote:I thought everyone agreed that the bell one was a hint for Breaking the Waves.

Probably so, but that doesn't help movielocke's six angels = six film boxset hypothesis, which sounded plausible enough to explore.

Ashirg wrote:What's besides The Eraserhead (2013) and Y Tu Mama Tambien (2011, 2012) is left over from the previous years' drawings?

There were also the three pearls that supposedly represented three volumes of Czech New Wave Eclipse sets.

Ashirg wrote:What's besides The Eraserhead (2013) and Y Tu Mama Tambien (2011, 2012) is left over from the previous years' drawings?

On The Beach
A Place In The Sun/Jazz On A Summer's Day/
La Dolce Vita/The Party/(or is it il sorpasso?)
The Wild One
Macbeth
The Tenant
The Deer Hunter
Cure
The Kid
Boy

While Paramount may yet licence LA DOLCE VITA to Criterion (and a lovely HD master of the pristine new resto exists already), the US rights issues were only sorted in court in Paramount's favour in June 2013... So it's very unlikely that LA DOLCE VITA would have appeared as an hint in an earlier Criterion drawing...

didn't the deer have alternate interpretations of it? was it all that heaven allows?

movielocke wrote:didn't the deer have alternate interpretations of it? was it all that heaven allows?

Yes, people guessed other things, but yeah at this point it's pretty much agreed that it was for All That Heaven Allows

Kino just announced The Party as coming via their MGM distribution deal, so the dancers are now known to definitely not be that.

Longshot with the dancers, but maybe Von Trier's "The Idiots"?

And I still hold out hope that sun is a clue for "Profound Desires of the Gods".