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Re: Fox and Universal Licenses

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:11 pm
by knives
Peyton Place is better than half the collection and a big enough film that the dismissal seems odd.

Re: Fox and Universal Licenses

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:23 pm
by Apperson
I've been wanting some kind of Region-B release for years based on domino's write-up, but there was a pretty recent Twilight Time version (as is two years after 1984 recent).

Re: Fox and Universal Licenses

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:53 pm
by Arthur House
Those most recent Fox titles were presumably in the pipeline pre-Disney. Disney has recently more or less shuttered the Fox theatrical rep department, which doesn't entirely bode well for them licensing stuff.

Keeping in the spirit of the thread, some other titles to consider if Disney plays ball:

An Unmarried Woman
Harry & Tonto
Willie & Phil
A Wedding
Titles from the Murnau/Borzage box.

Re: Fox and Universal Licenses

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:56 pm
by domino harvey
I don’t think A Wedding is with Fox anymore. Fallen Angel is forthcoming from TT, but they seem about one step away from shuttering so maybe not

Re: Fox and Universal Licenses

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:13 am
by Arthur House
domino harvey wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:56 pm I don’t think A Wedding is with Fox anymore. Fallen Angel is forthcoming from TT, but they seem about one step away from shuttering so maybe not
Who would have A Wedding then? Anchor Bay did an ultra-cheap DVD (no features or menus!) not long after the Fox Altman Box and individual release discs went OOP.

Re: Criterion and Fox / MGM / Universal

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:26 pm
by domino harvey
Discussion of the Disney/Fox merger moved here

Re: Criterion and Fox / MGM / Universal

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:13 pm
by flyonthewall2983
Bill Hunt reported on thedigitablbits some rumblings about Warner Brothers buying the rights to the MGM titles that were owned by Fox as of June 30th, when that deal expired.

Re: Criterion and Fox / MGM / Universal

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:28 pm
by Ribs
It’s not really an ownership situation, is it? It’s distribution rights - MGM is still in charge for those titles, WB just does the actual printing and distribution for the titles, it’s just an output deal. So there shouldn’t be any real reason why MGM titles wouldn’t start reappearing from all the specialty labels once the deal’s in motion. Did I misunderstand the situation?

Re: Criterion and Fox / MGM / Universal

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:19 pm
by domino harvey
So like what WB did for the Paramount titles they acquired, a WB UPC slapped on existing stock and a rebrand for future pressings?

Re: Criterion and Fox / MGM / Universal

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:20 pm
by knives
And one step closer to them owning the state of Delaware.

Re: Criterion and Fox / MGM / Universal

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:28 pm
by flyonthewall2983
Ribs wrote: Mon Jul 13, 2020 1:28 pm It’s not really an ownership situation, is it? It’s distribution rights - MGM is still in charge for those titles, WB just does the actual printing and distribution for the titles, it’s just an output deal. So there shouldn’t be any real reason why MGM titles wouldn’t start reappearing from all the specialty labels once the deal’s in motion. Did I misunderstand the situation?
Hunt was pretty vague about it and didn't describe it any clearer than I just did, not citing any official sources but citing it as going through the "grapevine".

Maybe one or both sides wants to consolidate the whole library which isn't a bad idea at all, and it seems to retroactively fit into what I'm reading about what the studio is doing now under it's new ownership by taking on new properties (they were a surprise contender in getting the rights to the new Scorsese movie) and not being so tied to past franchises.

Re: Criterion and Fox / MGM / Universal

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 2:48 pm
by Ribs
The grapevine, as is usual for Bill Hunt, was just based on product listings, releases that are ostensibly MGM (a season of Vikings, in particular? having listings appearing with Warner as the distributor. He doesn’t actually have any kind of inside grapevine tidbits, seeing as this was shared on Blu-ray’s forums before he shared it. Besides the fact this handover took MGM off the table for a chunk of the last year, I expect there’ll be pretty much no change in how things actually play out w/r/t every specialty label’s ability to license from them as it used to be.

Re: Criterion and Fox / MGM / Universal

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 3:57 pm
by Ribs
With THE GUNFIGHTER and CLAUDINE coming it appears there'll still be Fox titles held over from whenever they made their last deal coming in for the forseeable future.

Re: Criterion and Fox / MGM / Universal

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:20 pm
by therewillbeblus
Makes sense given their recent output including a Fox title practically each month, hopefully it's good for a while

Re: Criterion and Fox / MGM / Universal

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 4:42 pm
by Ribs
Criterion just sitting on the rights for movies for years (still waiting on ANY new SC titles!) will end up paying dividends as they’ll end up the last to still be putting out from the Fox library.

Re: Criterion and Fox / MGM / Universal

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:47 pm
by FrauBlucher
It’ll be interesting to see how many more Fox titles will be coming to CC. If Fox execs gave a heads up to CC about Disney deal hopefully more, bigger deals between Fox and CC were struck. I wonder how many Fox titles like The Gunfighter that don’t have a bluray release

Re: Criterion and Fox / MGM / Universal

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:50 pm
by domino harvey
The problem is, a lot of primo choice MIA Fox titles are not exactly Criterion material. As weird as it sounds, I’d be happier if they’d have struck such a deal with KLSC

Re: Criterion and Fox / MGM / Universal

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:08 am
by Ribs
I know we all want to hope for some of the titles that haven't gotten BD releases, but are there any other early-days-of-TT Fox titles that seem like the sort of thing CC would go after a la Leave Her To Heaven? I'm not familiar enough with spotting library titles from specific studios off-hand, but is there a world where they'd want to release Breaking Away or The Driver or movies like those? (I know that the only way we'll know is when they come, just spitballing ideas)

Re: Criterion and Fox / MGM / Universal

Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:12 am
by therewillbeblus
I could see Criterion going after more Mazursky, in which case they could pick up Next Stop, Greenwich Village, though I really hope they have Harry and Tonto in the works, which definitely is right up their alley

Re: Criterion and Fox / MGM / Universal

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:32 pm
by flyonthewall2983
FWIW, Warner Bros. is putting out Bill And Ted Face the Music on Blu.

Re: Criterion and Fox / MGM / Universal

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:01 pm
by Luke M
Do we think Criterion might release The Best Years of Our Lives? I've been considering overpaying for the OOP blu-ray but I can definitely hold off there's some speculation.

Re: Criterion and Fox / MGM / Universal

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:13 pm
by senseabove
That's a WB release, so seems more likely it'll get a Warner Archive rerelease at some point.

Re: Criterion and Fox / MGM / Universal

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:40 pm
by knives
Even more complicated is that it’s a Sam Goldwyn film.

Re: Criterion and Fox / MGM / Universal

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:07 am
by domino harvey
They already rereleased the similarly Samuel Goldwyn Blu of Hans Christian Anderson via the Archives, so it doesn’t appear to complicate anything as far as we know

Re: Criterion and Fox / MGM / Universal

Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2020 12:42 am
by Luke M
Thanks for the responses. I can wait.