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arsonfilms wrote:KARLOFF???

Wasn't Corridors of Blood mentioned as a possibility a good while back?

I didn't get the newsletter (probably blacklisted at this point). Could someone post a linky?

Corridors of Blood.

Either EclipseDVD announcment must be imminent or they are releasing all these under Criterion afterall.

Matt wrote:I didn't get the newsletter (probably blacklisted at this point). Could someone post a linky?

It might have been caught by filters for 'inappropriate language' like mine was. I'm guessing Mike Leigh was the culprit.

As for the Karloff speculation, surely the mention of Lugosi is also significant. He doesn't appear in the Collection at the moment (does he?), so he'd have to be added as well if he's supposed to move over for Karloff.

What a horribly mundane clue. I can't wait. I bet they're releasing another Equinox... a real winner.

I believe -- and I might be wrong -- that Bela Lugosi was supposed to be the lead in Good Burger, but due to scheduling conflicts with another film (ironically called Move Over) the studio went with Karloff.

My first thought was Bogdanovich's Targets, but that's a Paramount title. Yeah, it's probably Corridors of Blood.

zedz wrote:Surely the mention of Lugosi is also significant. He doesn't appear in the Collection at the moment (does he?), so he'd have to be added as well if he's supposed to move over for Karloff.

Karloff and Lugosi appear together in about a dozen films, so one of those could be a possibility, but Corriders of Blood sounds like the best guess so far...

for completeness:

How about The Black Cat? It's a Universal title, stars both icons and is from a well-respected director, Edgar G. Ulmer. The only thing is that Universal put it out just last year on the Bela Lugosi collection, where it and 4 other titles were crammed onto two discs. I doubt they'd be willing to fork over this film after only having it out on disc for barely over a year (since it'll be 2007 if this film is released by CC).

justeleblanc wrote:What a horribly mundane clue. I can't wait. I bet they're releasing another Equinox... a real winner.

I believe -- and I might be wrong -- that Bela Lugosi was supposed to be the lead in Good Burger, but due to scheduling conflicts with another film (ironically called Move Over) the studio went with Karloff.

Nah, he was dead for 41 years so they decided to go with Kenan Thompson. Makes sense, he was in the All That skits of course.

They certainly have run out of animals.

This past June the Balboa Theatre in San Francisco hosted what they claimed was the largest Karloff retrospective ever mounted (I have no reason to disbelieve; it was pretty large!)

The full program is viewable here.

Unfortunately I only attended two evenings. (I'm still kicking myself. Apparantly Night World (1932) was incredible.) I saw gorgeous prints of the Body Snatcher (1945) and (unannounced on the program) the entire English-dubbed version of Black Sabbath (1963), and good ones of the Lost Patrol (1934) and the Mask of Fu Manchu (1932). The Walking Dead (1936) was sourced from an old LaserDisc because the print had deteriorated so badly.

mikeohhh wrote:

justeleblanc wrote:What a horribly mundane clue. I can't wait. I bet they're releasing another Equinox... a real winner.

I believe -- and I might be wrong -- that Bela Lugosi was supposed to be the lead in Good Burger, but due to scheduling conflicts with another film (ironically called Move Over) the studio went with Karloff.

Nah, he was dead for 41 years so they decided to go with Kenan Thompson. Makes sense, he was in the All That skits of course.

Right right... Kenan Thompson (I can never remember his name!) from All That: Fear Eats the Soul.

Corridors of Blood or Grip of the Strangler aka The Haunted Strangler. Either one is a good bet because of the Richard Gordon connection on Fiend Without a Face and King of Kings.

I'm sure that this is an allusion to the Richard Gordon boxed set that was first mentioned over a year ago. Clearly, Criterion has decided to bag the Eclipse thing and will be releasing these themselves.

Let the pointless bitching, lists of more "worthy" titles, and ridiculous calls for a boycott begin!

I can't wait for the Gordons.

The Raven (starring Karloff and Lugosi) was released in 1935. In the same year Karloff performed in The Black Room (a Columbia release not currently on dvd) filling the roles of both main parts (twin brothers). Maybe that is carrying the deconstruction too far ...

luxetnox wrote:The Raven (starring Karloff and Lugosi) was released in 1935. In the same year Karloff performed in The Black Room (a Columbia release not currently on dvd) filling the roles of both main parts (twin brothers). Maybe that is carrying the deconstruction too far ...

no i think you have it perfectly, explains both the raven and the room references.

am I the only person who thinks that the Raven is un-related to the message... I mean just look at past newsletters... this isprobably just the bird from Le Courbou

Le Corbeau translates to The Raven you silly, and both actors named are in The Raven. there's definitely a connection, I think the guess a few posts up (The Black room?) is a really solid one

Except that the Black Room is already slated to be released in a Sony/Columbia set this October.

I can only think that this refers to last year's Universal "Lugosi Collection" DVD, in which four of the five films included (one of which was THE RAVEN) on a notoriously dodgy DVD-18 were actually Karloff-Lugosi co-starrers.

The dreamer in me would like to think that this is Criterion redressing the balance with an accurately-billed KARLOFF-LUGOSI set (hence, "move over Lugosi") of THE BLACK CAT, THE RAVEN and THE INVISIBLE RAY, decked out with commentaries, docos, All That Heaven Allows. There is of course a Criterion-Universal relationship, but I wonder about the commercial viability of such a swift rerelease.

Since Anchor Bay is reportedly doing new discs of the Bava titles Image previously released, and AB & Criterion have relations (right?), is Black Sabbath a possibility? Maybe a two-disc set with both Bava's and AIP's versions?

I would love that! But I don't really see Anchor Bay handing over their rights to Bava to anyone else. The new releases of Bava's pictures are widely anticipated and have the potential of being a major seller for AB next year.