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Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2025 8:52 pm
by FrauBlucher
This from Sister Hyde's Instagram
I was so thrilled to be asked by Criterion's Eric Skillman (aka the best art director in the world) to contribute a new cover to their upcoming release of Fritz Lang's iconic noir flick, wildly considered one of it not his best American film. I'm a massive fan of Lang and a big noir devotee, and on top of that this would be my first proper "old hollywood" title with the Collection, I really wanted to flex my muscles on this one. The direction was very specific, highlighting the leads Gloria Grahame and Glenn Ford in an artful montage, with only a hint of Gloria's "reveal" near the end, and leaning hard into the aesthetics of the genre. I knew I wanted to nail this as much as possible and give it the time and care it deserved, but as always, I wanted to play around in the sandbox of a classic film that I love so I created some left field concepts too that offered a different perspective on this brutal film. Obviously, the elegant montage was the way to go so we focused on refining that to the elegant final piece.
I knew early on I wanted to illustrate this cover to bring out the silver screen glow of nitrate film stock. I'm admittedly not much of an illustrator and haven't done a proper illustrated piece for Criterion since the Elephant Man, so I had to develop a method that worked for my skill level. I started by collaging together images from the film to find the composition that worked and captured tropes of the genre (he can't not be holding a smoking gun and wearing a fedora, c'mon). From there, (since I didn't have any black paper or white pencils), I created a negative version of the image, and used that as reference for a pencil sketch (you can see a rough draft in a later slide). That was scanned in and then finished and brought to life using digital pencils and smudge techniques, even incorporating the film's original title card into the illustration and giving it some good smears. Ultimately I couldn't be happier or more proud of how it came out.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:46 am
by Matt
Always happy to see more work by Sister Hyde, but I greatly prefer the earlier, simpler draft that emphasizes the "blinds" effect and doesn't have the coffee pot. Once you put the pot, the steam, the actors' names, the slanted title treatment, and the branding on it, it's way too much.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 11:46 am
by FrauBlucher
I don’t mind the cover but I’d like it a whole lot more minus the coffee pot. I don’t believe it’s necessary

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:23 pm
by ryannichols7
I like Sister Hyde's work but count me in as one who would support that cover more with more simplicity. that said, my much bigger issue is probably not their fault at all, but a Criterion issue at large. why must black and white movie = black and white cover? this is getting boring and is happening far too often, obviously especially on the noir side of things. one of the reasons I was so grateful for Indicator's Columbia Noir boxes was the fact that they truly paid tribute to the marketing of that genre with bold ass colors, as the posters often were. I love the original poster for The Big Heat like I do Double Indemnity or Midnight. I know we're never gonna win the original poster battle with Criterion, but can we at least have more fun covers like The Palm Beach Story or the 2011 cover for The Rules of the Game? just some ideas.

also that Carnal Knowledge designer has done some genuinely cool work. I have no idea how they made a cover that boring - reminds me of how the Scarface designer usually had pretty good stuff but ended up making that. anyway, yeah, weird month artwork wise.
DimitriL wrote: Wed Apr 16, 2025 6:07 pm
zedz wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 10:31 pmRegardless of what anybody thinks about All We Imagine As Light, it just makes sense on paper: it's one of the most highly praised and highly awarded films in years, is directed by an emerging woman filmmaker, and comes from a major filmmaking nation drastically underrepresented in the collection. I would have thought they'd be falling over themselves to add it to the main line.
The way Peter Becker was raving about it at NYFF, pretty much making it clear he thought it was the best film of the year, I thought it was a sure thing. But Flow was going to go Contemporaries until it won Best Animated, so I can only imagine the failure of either France or India to even nominate it for Best Foreign Film at the Oscars had a lot to do with it.
it's maddening that a movie that already didn't get enough love (it should've won the Palme d'Or but lost to...I don't wanna talk about it, and then didn't get Oscar nominated), but Criterion unceremoniously dumping it is just as disappointing. I'm very grateful for the BFI's edition, which does the movie and Payal Kapadia justice!

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:05 pm
by tenia
Maybe it's just a way to ensure they don't release All We Imagine in 6 years in the mainline, but right now though through the Contemporary line.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 4:33 pm
by Walter Kurtz
guyetgenevieve wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 6:57 pm Worth noting that it looks like the Barry Lyndon 4K will be housed in a digipak instead of a standard case like its original release
The simple design will look much better on a slipcase than the flimsy worse-than-copy-paper inserts they put in the plastic cases. They could also do a 2-page spread of one of those panoramic shots for the disc holder jacket.

Having said that it certainly depends on whether the digipak is constructed more like Ambersons with a bit of sturdiness to it... or the flimsy piece-of-shit slipcase-er-slip-paper for the Europe Trilogy.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:13 pm
by CSM126
Ya know, with Criterion being owned by a legit billionaire now you’d think they could invest in sturdier digipaks. I mean, Indicator does it on a small label budget so realistically Criterion shouldn’t need the extra cash… but now they really have no excuse for flimsy digipaks. I’m sure there’s an added cost for thicker material but it can’t be that much worse when you’re doing it in bulk numbers.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:54 pm
by jwo17
Walter Kurtz wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 4:33 pm
guyetgenevieve wrote: Tue Apr 15, 2025 6:57 pm Worth noting that it looks like the Barry Lyndon 4K will be housed in a digipak instead of a standard case like its original release
The simple design will look much better on a slipcase than the flimsy worse-than-copy-paper inserts they put in the plastic cases. They could also do a 2-page spread of one of those panoramic shots for the disc holder jacket.

Having said that it certainly depends on whether the digipak is constructed more like Ambersons with a bit of sturdiness to it... or the flimsy piece-of-shit slipcase-er-slip-paper for the Europe Trilogy.
Just keep it in the shrink and nobody gets hurt..

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 3:50 am
by Matt
ryannichols7 wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:23 pmwhy must black and white movie = black and white cover? this is getting boring and is happening far too often, obviously especially on the noir side of things.
Many consumers are genuinely stupid and many of them also have an unreasonable hatred for black-and-white films. I wouldn't be surprised if companies get a lot of returned discs because people thought they were buying a color film based on full-color cover art. But Criterion has done some mostly black-and-white illustrated covers with spot color, like The Gunfighter and Destry Rides Again that I think are really successful and wouldn't mislead anyone.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 3:39 pm
by DimitriL
Also, there's so many intensely colorful covers in the collection that a black and white stands out. But even so, there's still a decent number of colorful covers for BW films lately. Miracle in Milan. The Tod Browning collection. A Woman in Paris. Combine those with he ones with spot color - Arsenic and Old Lace also springs to mind - and I think you have a rather decently varied amount of color approaches.

(It's interesting that the Chaplin sets have by and large gone for a VERY colorful cover treatment, with only a couple of exceptions.)

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:50 pm
by olmo
CSM126 wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:13 pm Ya know, with Criterion being owned by a legit billionaire now you’d think they could invest in sturdier digipaks. I mean, Indicator does it on a small label budget so realistically Criterion shouldn’t need the extra cash… but now they really have no excuse for flimsy digipaks. I’m sure there’s an added cost for thicker material but it can’t be that much worse when you’re doing it in bulk numbers.
The aesthetic quality of an item is not a billionaire's concern the profit margin is.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 6:15 pm
by CSM126
olmo wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:50 pm
CSM126 wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:13 pm Ya know, with Criterion being owned by a legit billionaire now you’d think they could invest in sturdier digipaks. I mean, Indicator does it on a small label budget so realistically Criterion shouldn’t need the extra cash… but now they really have no excuse for flimsy digipaks. I’m sure there’s an added cost for thicker material but it can’t be that much worse when you’re doing it in bulk numbers.
The aesthetic quality of an item is not a billionaire's concern the profit margin is.
Well, to be fair, his whole pitch when he offered to buy them was “what could you do if you spent my money”. I guess the answer was “license The Wiz”.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 6:25 pm
by tenia
olmo wrote:
CSM126 wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:13 pm Ya know, with Criterion being owned by a legit billionaire now you’d think they could invest in sturdier digipaks. I mean, Indicator does it on a small label budget so realistically Criterion shouldn’t need the extra cash… but now they really have no excuse for flimsy digipaks. I’m sure there’s an added cost for thicker material but it can’t be that much worse when you’re doing it in bulk numbers.
The aesthetic quality of an item is not a billionaire's concern the profit margin is.
It's not just an aesthetic thing : actually, thicker cardboard really isn't. It's a matter of sturdiness, in a world where most of these products are bought online and shipped, so it's ensuring customers will be happy with a product able to absorb transportation issues and not ask for a replacement (which cost money). Sturdiness also kinda sends a message of a more lavish product, and people don't like buying a supposedly high-end premium priced product and feel like it's made of cheapo material. It's a brand image, and this brings money when it's good.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:50 pm
by olmo
tenia wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 6:25 pm
olmo wrote:
CSM126 wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:13 pm Ya know, with Criterion being owned by a legit billionaire now you’d think they could invest in sturdier digipaks. I mean, Indicator does it on a small label budget so realistically Criterion shouldn’t need the extra cash… but now they really have no excuse for flimsy digipaks. I’m sure there’s an added cost for thicker material but it can’t be that much worse when you’re doing it in bulk numbers.
The aesthetic quality of an item is not a billionaire's concern the profit margin is.
It's not just an aesthetic thing : actually, thicker cardboard really isn't. It's a matter of sturdiness, in a world where most of these products are bought online and shipped, so it's ensuring customers will be happy with a product able to absorb transportation issues and not ask for a replacement (which cost money). Sturdiness also kinda sends a message of a more lavish product, and people don't like buying a supposedly high-end premium priced product and feel like it's made of cheapo material. It's a brand image, and this brings money when it's good.
Which is what I said. Billionaires become billionaires because they don't spend money when they don't have to.

Billionaires attain their status by being terrible people, philanthropists & artisans they are not so don't go hoping for any more lavish product soon unless there's a price hike.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:01 pm
by tenia
Except that ensuring more customers' are happy to come back because they feel they have value-for-money and don't have to return half their purchases because of flimsy packaging does help the profits.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:02 pm
by dwk
Image

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:33 pm
by Walter Kurtz
Just curious. Is that a spoiler on the disc holder? (But one of the most striking covers in the entire collection.)

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2025 11:26 pm
by sabbath
Walter Kurtz wrote: Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:33 pm Just curious. Is that a spoiler on the disc holder? (But one of the most striking covers in the entire collection.)
Which one? If you mean the flame, no, that's a premise.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 2:57 pm
by Walter Kurtz
Great, thanks. I was going left to right and doing psych test evaluation/Pudovkin montage theory and saw 1) truck with nitro or dynamite 2) explosion... therefore 3) roll credits. After reading that someone wanted to put out Seven in a what's in the box package... I'm only sure of one thing. We all live in an idiocracy.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:42 pm
by DimitriL
Walter Kurtz wrote: Fri Apr 25, 2025 2:57 pm Great, thanks. I was going left to right and doing psych test evaluation/Pudovkin montage theory and saw 1) truck with nitro or dynamite 2) explosion... therefore 3) roll credits. After reading that someone wanted to put out Seven in a what's in the box package... I'm only sure of one thing. We all live in an idiocracy.
Yeah, it makes more sense as a premise image when you realize that the fire is actually the FRONT of the disc holder.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Thu May 08, 2025 2:36 am
by cdnchris

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Thu May 08, 2025 10:12 am
by CSM126
As regards the interior of the Musketeers…

I think I found Waldo

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Thu May 08, 2025 4:51 pm
by olmo
The inner design of The Three Musketeers brings to mind the illustrations of the much-missed Jason Polan.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Thu May 08, 2025 5:27 pm
by mteller
olmo wrote: Thu May 08, 2025 4:51 pm The inner design of The Three Musketeers brings to mind the illustrations of the much-missed Jason Polan.
My thoughts exactly.

Re: Criterion & Eclipse Cover Art & Packaging Babble-on Vol. 7

Posted: Sun May 11, 2025 3:25 am
by low
I'm pleased to see the return of what at least resembles the classic double-Alpha width spine for the Musketeers release.