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Re: Ingmar Bergman's Cinema

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:32 pm
by Glowingwabbit
mfunk9786 wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:24 pm Money isn't an object to everyone. That's exactly why things have resale markets in the first place - some can afford not to be bargain hunters and instead just purchase what they'd like to purchase when they want to purchase it. Totally foreign to me and most here, of course, but it's not altogether unbelievable.
Yeah that's true. I remember working at Barnes & Noble back in the day and some people buying discs and boxsets at full price. I just tend to forget that now asI definitely look for bargains on everything.

But I'd agree if anyone has an unopened one I'd suggest sell it and get a new set in February.

Re: Ingmar Bergman's Cinema

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:37 pm
by mfunk9786
Would assume that barring a surprise restock, value is only going to go up closer to Christmas, and perhaps even after.

Re: Ingmar Bergman's Cinema

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:43 pm
by tenia
mfunk9786 wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:24 pm Money isn't an object to everyone. That's exactly why things have resale markets in the first place - some can afford not to be bargain hunters and instead just purchase what they'd like to purchase when they want to purchase it. Totally foreign to me and most here, of course, but it's not altogether unbelievable.
It's not a question of not being a bargain hunter, but not to pay silly money as if it was a definitely sold out product but it's not. This isn't something we don't know if it will be back in stock : it will and we even know when. Why would you then shelf out $400 to get one if you wouldn't shelf out $150-300 to pre-order it in the first place ? This is just silly.

But hey, if people have money to burn this way... (though I wish they give it to a charity - or me - instead).

However, I can understand factoring Christmas in if you really wanted to offer it to someone and now you're stuck with this OOS status.

Re: Ingmar Bergman's Cinema

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:52 pm
by domino harvey
If someone was intending to give this as a Christmas gift, I could understand paying more to make it happen, because time is an issue

Re: Ingmar Bergman's Cinema

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:54 pm
by tenia
Absolutely. But otherwise, it seems like paying a lot more while we already know it's going to come back in a few months. And it's paying even more if you didn't care enough to bother ordering it at 50% off.

Re: Ingmar Bergman's Cinema

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:05 pm
by swo17
Right, no one will be paying this much for it for any other reason than Christmas

Re: Ingmar Bergman's Cinema

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:39 pm
by mfunk9786
Or just wanting to have it before Feb 28th

Re: Ingmar Bergman's Cinema

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:42 pm
by domino harvey
I mean, for most people there's no better season for watching downbeat films (though I have reverse Seasonal Affective Disorder and actually feel much happier around this time of year), so sure. If I was wealthy and could afford to not wait, I wouldn't either

Re: Ingmar Bergman's Cinema

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:50 pm
by swo17
I would think that anyone not wanting to wait would have preordered from Amazon or B&N for 50% off, though I guess some of those orders may have fallen through

Re: Ingmar Bergman's Cinema

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:57 pm
by bunuelian
Bear in mind that people may be listing them for insane prices, but buyers may not be buying.

I mean, I've been trying to sell my brand new, sealed (!!1ONE!) DVD of M. Hulot's Holiday for ages on feebay for the low, low routine price of $40, and no one (for some reason) is biting on it. I can dare to dream, though.

Re: Ingmar Bergman's Cinema

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:04 pm
by domino harvey
You can see recently sold listings for an item, which reveals people are in fact buying them at this price

Re: Ingmar Bergman's Cinema

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 6:06 pm
by hearthesilence
Man, this is like our version of the Furby/tickle me Elmo/XBox 360 Christmas gift inflation.

Re: Ingmar Bergman's Cinema

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:22 pm
by swo17
swo17 wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:24 pm If I can get that much out of it from someone desperate to get it now before Christmas, I can absolutely wait until February to get another identical copy. It's kind of like an airline paying you for being willing to be bumped to a later flight.
And mine just sold for $400!

Re: Ingmar Bergman's Cinema

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:39 am
by phoenix474
If people want to give this for Christmas, just preorder it from B&N and give the recipient “a gift card” and explain it’s out of stock

Re: Ingmar Bergman's Cinema

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:56 am
by mfunk9786
How festive!

Re: Ingmar Bergman's Cinema

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2018 3:18 am
by FrauBlucher
swo17 wrote: Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:22 pm
swo17 wrote: Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:24 pm If I can get that much out of it from someone desperate to get it now before Christmas, I can absolutely wait until February to get another identical copy. It's kind of like an airline paying you for being willing to be bumped to a later flight.
And mine just sold for $400!
Nice. That's a no brainer.

Re: Ingmar Bergman's Cinema

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:57 pm
by yunro
Those of you who have not gone through the set my want to check their discs. My set contained 2 disc 22s and no disc 24. There are several other people on blu-ray.com reporting similar issues of missing/duplicate discs. Sent an email to Criterion inquiring about a replacement disc.

Re: Ingmar Bergman's Cinema

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 5:34 pm
by tenia
I started having a look at the differences between the individual releases booklets and the boxset book. I don't have all individual Bergman BD releases, and won't be able to compare Scenes from a Marriage, The Virgin Spring and Sawdust and Tinsel. However, I have the other ones. From what I gathered so far :

- Same content : The Seventh Seal, Autumn Sonata, Wild Strawberries, Cries and Whispers.
- Possible rewriting : Summer Interlude (paired with another movie, but the essay's title is the same so maybe there isn't much difference between the 2 versions)
- Less content in the book : The Magician (booklet contains also a text by Olivier Assayas), Smiles of a Summer Night (booklet contains also an article by Pauline Kael), Summer With Monika (booklet also contains a text by Godard and an ITW of Bergman by himself which I don't think is in the book), Persona (booklet also contains a Bergman ITW and a Bibi Andersson ITW).

I haven't checked yet F&A.

I'll try to test if I can just put the individual discs I plan to keep in plastic sleeves and place them somewhere in the boxset "disc book" and see if I can still close it. There are only 4 discs I plan to insert this way so it shouldn't be too thick.

Re: Ingmar Bergman's Cinema

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:24 pm
by Akihiko
Mine has repeated disc 26 (Autumn sonata) and 28 (Fanny and Alexander) is missing. What a mess! I hope not to have to send the whole heavy pack from Spain for a single disc, in addition, assuming the costly shipping and customs. I'm very sad!!!! Please, check your packs.

Re: Ingmar Bergman's Cinema

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:39 pm
by swo17
In cases like these, I'm sure they would just send out whichever replacement discs they need to

Re: Ingmar Bergman's Cinema

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:40 pm
by MichaelB
Apparently there've been quite a few similar cases, so I'm sure you're right.

Re: Ingmar Bergman's Cinema

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:01 pm
by NABOB OF NOWHERE
yunro wrote: Sun Dec 02, 2018 1:57 pm Those of you who have not gone through the set my want to check their discs. My set contained 2 disc 22s and no disc 24. There are several other people on blu-ray.com reporting similar issues of missing/duplicate discs. Sent an email to Criterion inquiring about a replacement disc.
Are there any examples of mis-labelling rather than missing numbers or duplication? I have every number in consecutive order but would hate to put on number 29 in 2023 and find I have another copy of All these women instead of the Making of Fanny and Alexander

Re: Ingmar Bergman's Cinema

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:03 pm
by MichaelB
There's only one way to find out!

Re: Ingmar Bergman's Cinema

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:59 pm
by NABOB OF NOWHERE
MichaelB wrote: Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:03 pm There's only one way to find out!
Sure I was just being lazy and hoping someone else had put in the hours

Re: Ingmar Bergman's Cinema

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 4:05 pm
by swo17
Even if you discovered an issue in 5 years, I should think that Criterion would still help to resolve the issue at that time, even if the set has gone OOP in the interim. (They still offer replacements for Pierrot le fou, for instance.)