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Re: Coronavirus' Effect on the Entertainment Industry
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:01 am
by captveg
Interesting wrinkle in a
Screen Archive article (I know, I know) about how some contract language may change with the increase of streaming as distribution for film projects:
According to The Wrap, Marvel Studios is beginning to consider new contracts that would allow for flexibility in the event that the pandemic or other factors lead to a decision to bypass theaters in favor of a streaming release. Actors, directors, writers, and producers would receive adjusted payments under the new terms, depending on whether an MCU movie opens in theaters or debuts on Disney+. This would reportedly only affect films which have yet to enter production, such as Black Panther 2 which will begin filming in June 2021. It’s unclear if the same terms apply to Black Widow, which is already completed.
I would link to the source from The Wrap they say this is from, but they failed to link to it, as is often the case for these types of sites.
Re: Coronavirus' Effect on the Entertainment Industry
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:13 am
by Lemmy Caution
So for someone who doesn't care for action blockbusters or Bond films, which would you say is the best one to watch to dip my toe in and see what the series is about?
(I'm not sure i ever saw a Mission impossible tv show either).
Re: Coronavirus' Effect on the Entertainment Industry
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:16 am
by therewillbeblus
Probably the fourth, Ghost Protocol, or the fifth, Rogue Nation, though I do think it's worth seeing how they build on each other. The sixth ties back into the others in ways that will be tougher to acclimate to.
Re: Coronavirus' Effect on the Entertainment Industry
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:38 am
by swo17
Lemmy Caution wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:13 am
So for someone who doesn't care for...Bond films, which would you say is the best one to watch?
The Living Daylights
Re: Coronavirus' Effect on the Entertainment Industry
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:53 am
by domino harvey
Lemmy Caution wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:13 am
So for someone who doesn't care for action blockbusters or Bond films, which would you say is the best one to watch to dip my toe in and see what the series is about?
(I'm not sure i ever saw a Mission impossible tv show either).
As far as
M:I goes,
Rogue Nation is a masterpiece. The Opera House setpiece is an incredible art house interpretation of an action movie. But if you haven't seen the first four
Die Hard movies, that's your one-stop shop
Re: Coronavirus' Effect on the Entertainment Industry
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:04 am
by colinr0380
swo17 wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:38 am
Lemmy Caution wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 5:13 am
So for someone who doesn't care for...Bond films, which would you say is the best one to watch?
The Living Daylights
Best use of a cello case as a sled in cinema.
Re: Coronavirus' Effect on the Entertainment Industry
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:33 pm
by Lemmy Caution
Thanks, the MI series was never on my radar. I wasn't aware some were considered quite good.
Will try to get hold of MI4 & 5.
Re: Coronavirus' Effect on the Entertainment Industry
Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:41 am
by captveg
MGM exploring being sold
My money is on Universal since Disney and AT&T/WB have too much debt. Universal has already taken over distribution in theaters and on video for MGM recently.
Re: Coronavirus' Effect on the Entertainment Industry
Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:14 am
by flyonthewall2983
Except for
Bill and Ted Face the Music which WB distributes on video. They also did theatrical distribution for several films (both
Creed movies come to mind) before the Universal deal. I thought Apple was going to get them but in one of the articles I read it said someone was fired for holding those negotiations because Apple was low-balling them on price I guess.
Legendary might be taking WB to court over HBOmax premiering Dune early, in order to save it's "franchise potential". Turns out I was on to something when I joked that Denis Villeneuve was "tempting fate" by taking this on.
Re: Coronavirus' Effect on the Entertainment Industry
Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:22 pm
by Monterey Jack
Just so long as it's not DISNEY.

Re: Coronavirus' Effect on the Entertainment Industry
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:04 am
by Finch
Critical consensus on WW84 is very mixed; even on Rotten Tomatoes the film now only sits at 67%. According to Warner Media the numbers have been promising for HBO Max but in the long term, they'll need an IP that does for the service what Hamilton did for Disney +. Out of the 17 films premiering next year, In The Heights might be the one, not least because Hamilton creatives are involved, and possibly the new Matrix if Lily Wachowski has created something closer to the first. Tom & Jerry looks terrible and it won't be clear until October whether Denis Villeneuve has managed to crack Dune. Warners refusing to let Legendary negotiate a sale to Netflix for Godzilla vs Kong even for $250m is a sign that the studio likes and believes in that film enough not to let go of it (compare that to Paramount offloading Coming 2 America).
As tone-deaf and discourteous Warners' decision was not to inform talent of the joint premieres of their films in theaters and the streamer, they are not completely wrong in thinking the pandemic isn't going to be beaten sooner than later. How many knuckleheads are going to refuse to get vaccinated? How quickly is the general US population going to get access, let alone in most European countries (the Guardian ran a piece yesterday about how some German officials and scientists think it won't be until next September at the earliest before they get on top of the pandemic there; South Korea got caught off-guard by a Christmas third wave of the pandemic, and on top of the UK variant, Canada is reporting another new strain).
I don't know, if I was the studios that had films slated for May, let alone earlier, I might look at rescheduling again (as painful as that might be for MGM re Bond 25, but then MGM is supposedly up for sale). Nobody knows how soon people will be ready to go back to theaters even when the pandemic is successfully contained.
Re: Coronavirus' Effect on the Entertainment Industry
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:08 pm
by Rayon Vert
Finch wrote: Mon Dec 28, 2020 9:04 am and on top of the UK variant, Canada is reporting another new strain).
The strain in Canada
is the UK strain, caught by people traveling back from Britain or coming into contact with them. (It's in many other countries as well, and should be wider spread in the US given they didn't apply the same travel restrictions.)
Re: Coronavirus' Effect on the Entertainment Industry
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 11:44 pm
by FrauBlucher
Re: Coronavirus' Effect on the Entertainment Industry
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:51 pm
by flyonthewall2983
Re: Coronavirus' Effect on the Entertainment Industry
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:52 pm
by willoneill
Money isn't real.
Re: Coronavirus' Effect on the Entertainment Industry
Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:54 pm
by hearthesilence
willoneill wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 8:52 pm
Money isn't real.
Now you've done it.
Re: Coronavirus' Effect on the Entertainment Industry
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:03 am
by domino harvey
Without even checking I'm confident this was a /r/WallStreetBets thing
Re: Coronavirus' Effect on the Entertainment Industry
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:10 am
by senseabove
Yep. AMC, Nokia, Blackberry and a few other fading symbols of millenial youth got goosed just like GameStop.
Re: Coronavirus' Effect on the Entertainment Industry
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:21 am
by domino harvey
Okay I'm catching up on this and this is actually kind of hilarious, in a "Don't piss off /r/WallStreetBets" kind of way. These nutjobs really potentially cost that targeted hedge fund billions of dollars (some of which they'll presumably get back when the GameStop bubble bursts, but still) with these acts
EDIT And I don't think RobinHood is long for this world if these reports of them preventing indiv users access and canceling orders is true
Re: Coronavirus' Effect on the Entertainment Industry
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:27 am
by soundchaser
Better cash out my five RobinHood bucks from some mining company!
Re: Coronavirus' Effect on the Entertainment Industry
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:57 am
by Cash Flagg
domino harvey wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:21 amThese nutjobs really potentially cost that targeted hedge fund
billions of dollars (some of which they'll presumably get back when the GameStop bubble bursts, but still) with these acts
While The President did nothing
Re: Coronavirus' Effect on the Entertainment Industry
Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:27 am
by cdnchris
domino harvey wrote:Okay I'm catching up on this and this is actually kind of hilarious, in a "Don't piss off /r/WallStreetBets" kind of way. These nutjobs really potentially cost that targeted hedge fund billions of dollars (some of which they'll presumably get back when the GameStop bubble bursts, but still) with these acts
EDIT And I don't think RobinHood is long for this world if these reports of them preventing indiv users access and canceling orders is true
It's actually a bit funnier/more messed up than that. The hedge funds shorting GameStop were shorting more stock than there actually was and WallStreerBets noticed it so that's what moved them to gang up on them and drive the price up. So when these shorters actually have to buy back the stock to close the short there will potentially not be enough and they'll end up driving the price up even more in the process, further screwing them.
And it appears that may be why Robin Hood had to stop the abilitu to buy because it sounds like they could end up being stuck with the tab if everyone down the line can't cover their losses, but I'm admittedly not sure how stuff like that works.
Re: Coronavirus' Effect on the Entertainment Industry
Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 5:44 pm
by movielocke
As I saw someone else say the game stop shorting is the plot of the Producers, but with stocks instead of theatre.
Re: Coronavirus' Effect on the Entertainment Industry
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:45 pm
by lacritfan
Well A24 is trying something different. If you want to watch Minari you have to watch it at a certain time and there's only a limited number of seats just like a real movie. WTF?
Minari Virtual Screenings
Re: Coronavirus' Effect on the Entertainment Industry
Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:21 pm
by jazzo
The TIFF Lightbox is doing this with their virtual screenings, too. Of course, I have no idea what the licensing of these films for public screenings entails, but it does seem like an odd choice to limit your audience under the current circumstances.