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Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:16 am
by psufootball07
I tried to find out when they would anticipate releasing Vivre sa Vie, which after watching both Made in USA and 2 or 3 Things last week, I realized that it probably is Godard's finest achievement or at least most touching film. Never got a reply. Guess I have to wait another year, damn it.
Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 1:17 am
by onedimension
What do you people all say to Mulvaney? I've e-mailed Criterion 3 times and never had a response. Is there a password?
Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:57 am
by AfterTheRain
I e-mailed him a couple of hours ago about some title suggestions; I'll wait and see if I can get through to him. However, I've tried a couple of times in the past and had this happen, so I won't be surprised if it happens again.
Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:27 am
by Person
onedimension wrote:What do you people all say to Mulvaney? I've e-mailed Criterion 3 times and never had a response. Is there a password?
Give him sex first.
Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 9:32 am
by MyNameCriterionForum
onedimension wrote:What do you people all say to Mulvaney? Is there a password?
"Bottle Rocket"
Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:14 pm
by ShellOilJunior
onedimension wrote:What do you people all say to Mulvaney? I've e-mailed Criterion 3 times and never had a response. Is there a password?
"Swordfish"
Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:20 pm
by ptatler
ianungstad wrote:(Courtney Love wants too much $$ or something)
The "something" she wants is a double-disc SD/Blu release of 200 CIGARETTES.
In all seriousness, the CC could use a little more C-Love in the form of a STRAIGHT TO HELL disc. It's my second-favorite Cox after REPO MAN.
I'm VERY excited about MYSTERY TRAIN. Previous discs have been disappointing. I'd love to see DEAD MAN and GHOST DOG hit the collection, too.
Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 2:39 pm
by Harmonov
ptatler wrote:ianungstad wrote:(Courtney Love wants too much $$ or something)
I'd love to see DEAD MAN and GHOST DOG hit the collection, too.
I second that.
Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 3:26 pm
by perkizitore
Harmonov wrote:ptatler wrote:ianungstad wrote:(Courtney Love wants too much $$ or something)
I'd love to see DEAD MAN and GHOST DOG hit the collection, too.
I second that.
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I will be over the moon if the current Criterion Jarmusch's titles go high-def and Mystery Train gets the treatment it deserves. But Dead Man is already on Blu and i don't care that much about it to take up some valuable spine place

Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:24 pm
by Jeff
perkizitore wrote:Dead Man is already on Blu and i don't care that much about it to take up some valuable spine place
You're worried that Criterion is going to run out of numbers?
Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:34 pm
by Bloody Benten
Ghost Dog would be most wise if it were to make it to CC
Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:50 pm
by Murdoch
I can't understand all the Jarmusch love, I've always thought what Herzog said about him was dead-on.
Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:51 pm
by aox
Murdoch wrote:I can't understand all the Jarmusch love, I've always thought what Herzog said about him was dead-on.
What did he say?
Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:43 pm
by solaris72
Werner Herzog wrote:He is a dilettante, a bohemian. Cinema is inessential to his life. He is always the outsider, but not in a good way – he doesn’t get his hands dirty. [He is] a facile exploiter of others’ authenticity… appropriating all the usual bourgeois tropes of authenticity [such as the] indian in ‘Dead Man’, or african-american culture in ’Ghost Dog. Not only is he shallow, but he presents shallowness as a virtue. Like all bohemians, he is an ironist. This is cowardice, not cinema.
Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:47 pm
by aox
Nice!

Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:03 pm
by James
Funny how Jarmusch's most recent movie, The Limits of Control, portrays bohemians as those who are out of touch with their elders (at least, that's how I recall John Hurt and Bill Murray in the movie seeing them as) and who are generally only intellectual in a purely artificial way. I wonder if he's addressing Herzog here indirectly.
Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:15 am
by MoonlitKnight
Considering most of his films deal in some way with the disposability of American culture, I feel Herzog may be missing the boat a little in his criticism.
Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:20 am
by mikkelmark
To me Jarmusch'es movies always been about hitting a certain tone, earlier found by Wim Wenders, just a little rougher. I don't think that he's bad, just not that great either.
About Dead Man, I used to think it was inspired by El Dorado, also being a western John Wayne having the bullet inside of him, and the silly hat from James Caan. Then the other day I watched Kings of the Road where they actually say "dead man" at some point, and if you watch carefully, you can see a poster with a western picture of Robert Mitchum (probably from El Dorado) in the back of their van, where all the cinema spare parts are. So im guessing the core of Dead Man comes from Kings of the Road. Anyone noticed other stuff?
Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:30 am
by The Elegant Dandy Fop
MoonlitKnight wrote:Considering most of his films deal in some way with the disposability of American culture, I feel Herzog may be missing the boat a little in his criticism.
Exactly what I was thinking.
Besides it's Herzog. Am I the only one who can't take this man seriously?
Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:40 am
by perkizitore
Jeff wrote:perkizitore wrote:Dead Man is already on Blu and i don't care that much about it to take up some valuable spine place
You're worried that Criterion is going to run out of numbers?
No, but there are many films far more worthy than Ghost Dog waiting to be part of the collection

Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:59 am
by aox
The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote:Besides it's Herzog. Am I the only one who can't take this man seriously?
I am being lighthearted here, but he's really the only person I do take seriously.
Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:31 am
by The Elegant Dandy Fop
aox wrote:The Elegant Dandy Fop wrote:Besides it's Herzog. Am I the only one who can't take this man seriously?
I am being lighthearted here, but he's really the only person I do take seriously.
That's okay. I still like your posts!
Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 1:53 am
by aox
I don't agree with a lot of what he says, but I find the man even more fascinating then I find his films (I found Burden of Dreams much more compelling than Fitzcarraldo). His DVD commentaries are wonderful.
Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:51 am
by Mr Sausage
aox wrote:I don't agree with a lot of what he says, but I find the man even more fascinating then I find his films (I found Burden of Dreams much more compelling than Fitzcarraldo). His DVD commentaries are wonderful.
Read Conquest of the Useless yet?
Re: 'Forthcoming' Lists Discussion and Random Speculation Vol.2
Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:19 am
by aox
Mr_sausage wrote:aox wrote:I don't agree with a lot of what he says, but I find the man even more fascinating then I find his films (I found Burden of Dreams much more compelling than Fitzcarraldo). His DVD commentaries are wonderful.
Read Conquest of the Useless yet?
Yep..I have read it practically twice; which is exactly why I find BoD much more fascinating. Herzog is much more compelling than the character Fitzcarraldo.